posted October 16, 1999 10:33 PM            

Twin Peaks is another movie that I really liked, and is probably the only one to rival Muncheousen as my favorite. Of course, Twin Peaks wasn't entirely a movie. Only about two hours of it was. The rest was an incredibly good TV show, a few novels, and some audio casettes. But I'm still counting it as a movie because of how incredibly, mind blowingly cool it was.

posted October 17, 1999 07:24 AM            

I recall the Black Lodge and the White Lodge being the same place. It all had to do with your emotional state. Or, as Major Briggs put it, "Fear and love open the doors."

David Lynch may be Invisible.

posted October 17, 1999 08:43 PM            

I remember friends of mine getting confused when I told them about this quote I read in a Lynch interview. He said Blue Velvet was as much about the robin at the end as about all of Hopper's sex and violence. It wasn't meant to be ironic.

Now he's done a G-rated *Disney* film for gosh sakes, that looks to be an Oscar contender from all the early press.

Mmmm. Lawnmower quest.

posted October 17, 1999 09:03 PM         

I remember Gaiman going on in some interview about how he wanted Gilliam or Peter Greenaway to direct the Sandman movie... Tried pointing out to my mates who agreed with him that these are AUTEURS, and would therefore adapt the source material to be the host body for the parasitic infestation that was their Vision. You'd get Dream being thirty foot tall and clockwork, or something.

Hang on... that sounds kaleidoscopic... kind of an Ezekiel thing...

posted October 18, 1999 01:35 AM            

But yeah, who could adapt a script properly without losing Grant's filmatic vision? I mean, lets face it, so many scenes in invis are exactly as they should look on screen... man, I'd want it to be panel by panel, you know what I'm saying?

Would you say that Gilliam's Fear and Loathing was a Gilliam movie, or a movie about something the Doctor wrote? Everyone I know says it was eerily accurate. I think the man knows how to work, he doesn't have to be some kind of prima donna, and he's be a lot better than Barry Sonnenfeld... or wait, Jim Cameron, there ya go. Seriousl, what about... umm, whats-his-name, the french guy... Alien Ressurection, City of Lost Children... I bet he'd have a good take. How 'bout three movies for each volume, with different directors each.

posted October 18, 1999 05:27 AM            

I don't know what's going on, but I sure do dig that circular narrative. And the Mystery Man's pretty cool, too. The equivalent of the Blind Chessman, perhaps?

posted October 18, 1999 05:40 PM         

I think that there are elements of the action movie in Invisibles, especially (obviously) the first half of Vol. 2 - action is only tension/melodrama translated to kinetic set-pieces anyway, so yeah, I think Davey Boy could do it.

And I also think Gillam lucked out with F&LinLV in finding source material that happened to be exactly what he wanted to do at the perfect time to do it. You notice you called it Gilliam's... It's still a TG movie, it's just also remarkably faithful to the source. Exceptions prove the rule, thinks I.

Lost Highway is fucking beautiful cinema, and the only thing I've ever seen on screen that matches Invisibles for sheer depth and stylistic charisma - it also uses a very similar narrative device in the whole circular/non-linear thing, and caps of the comparison with moments of hyperreality that shouted MORRISON at me until it was burnt into my retina (so to speak).

Look at me waffling on like a twat...

posted October 18, 1999 08:19 PM            

Harmony House has a Victorian-architecture look to it.

There are plenty of opportunities for English character actors and ex-Pythons: either John Cleese or Terry Jones could make an excellent Sir Miles, f'rinstance... and then there's Mr. Gelt... and Tom O'Bedlam... and the Marquis deSade... and the 1929 Invisibles... there'd be plenty of parts for older English actors.

I'll grant you the lack of pirate ships, though there is a character named Jolly Roger...

Fuck! get Gilliam on the phone!!

posted October 18, 1999 08:30 PM            

(It's da Bishop! We wuz too late!)

posted October 19, 1999 12:12 AM            

Derek Jarman/Richard Kern/John Woo

James Cameron/Clive Barker/Terry Gilliam

posted October 19, 1999 04:55 AM            

I'd say it was a detourned Alex Cox movie.
It had people vomiting and trashing hotel rooms in it, after all.
I wanna know why he removed himself from that project....

>the french guy... Alien Ressurection, City of Lost Children... I bet he'd have a good take. How 'bout three movies for each volume, with different directors each.<

Jeunet would certainly make the raves and the trippy infosphere/metaverse scenes happening....

then Jackie sez: >Love Zephir's idea of three movies/directors per volume. May I suggest: Derek Jarman/Richard Kern/John Woo

James Cameron/Clive Barker/Terry Gilliam

Hal Hartley/David Lynch/??<

Richard Kern as in "Hard Core?" Lung Leg's auteur? (she's hot!)
That'd be a violent head-bending trip...

I like the idea of Hal Hartley directing part of the Invisibles. It'd have to be very chatty. But the soundtrack would fit, somehow. And, of course, he knows about hand grenades.

I think I like the idea of persuading John Sayles to do it all -- or maybe third volume -- he's pretty good at switching tones and kinda has that formal narrative/postmodern fable edge to a lot of his pitchers.

posted October 19, 1999 06:25 PM            

(a) I was just taking the piss with the Michael Palin thing.

(b) Isn't Derek Jarman dead?

posted November 04, 1999 08:15 PM            

Depressive old guys playing cards inside of a fish:

The world of fantasy manifesting into and overturning rationalism.

posted November 17, 1999 09:51 PM            

Laura Palmer screaming at Cooper (in the Black Lodge), came later......

posted November 20, 1999 07:52 PM            

If anyone's interested start a new thread and I'll try to offer some supporting evidence for the theory.