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Topic: sweet tap-dancin' jesus this is too
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King Mob
Operative |
posted December 02, 1999 01:30 AM
  
Invisibles
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FROM CORONA COMING ATTRACTIONS:
Corona Coming Attractions reports that an adaptation of Grant
Morrison's The Invisibles may be back on. You may recall that
Morrison was developing the concept as a BBC mini-series but
that
project reportedly ran aground.
However, a new scooper claims that an Invisibles feature film may
be
in the works and Artisan Entertainment (Blair Witch Project)
may be
involved. CCA was unable to verify this information, so
lets
consider it rumor for now.
http://www.corona.bc.ca/
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 02, 1999 07:23 PM
oh. How exciting!
(dons pessimistic hat)
If you beleive the
rumours then ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD EVER is also being
turned into a movie.
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King Mob
Operative |
posted December 04, 1999 02:05 AM
i said it was too good to be true, jesus.
whatever happened to
the dream?
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Twig the Wonder Kid
Operative |
posted December 04, 1999 08:36 PM
"ah sleep, that's where I'm a Viking' - Ralph Wiggum
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look!NickWaddam!
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 12:51 PM
My pessimistic hat tells me an Invisibles movie would be shit.
I wonder how many people here would actually enjoy
it....
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 01:11 PM
It would be cool if it was something like the movie Valis in the
book of the same name.
It would have people staggering out of the
cinema with glazed over eyes , drooling , laughing manicly and
getting their blank badges from a box outside the door.
A FILM
THAT DRIVES PEOPLE MAD! Thats what the world needs.
And the
reviews would be paragraphs of random gibberish ending in "you must
see this film! *****.Fuck you. I resign."
Aaah , the
dream.
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Gentleman Assassin
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 02:40 PM
Yes, a film loaded with dangerous subliminal imagery which
spontaneously combusted in the projector after 14 minutes...
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Gentleman Assassin
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 02:47 PM
sorry, 23 minutes...
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 03:19 PM
I think a flick would be good to promote attention to Grant's work
but I fear the film itself would be trash. Face it, has anyone ever
seen a film adaptation of a comic that was as good as the comic? Me
either.
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 03:27 PM
What about Howard the Duck?
Just kidding.
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 11:13 PM
you know, the novelisation of the Howard the Duck movie was pretty
fucking cool. Anyone else read it? I went through a stage of reading
movie novelisations in my teens. My favourite books from back then
were The Last Starfighter, Starman, Howard the Duck and E.T.
They added a nice new dimension to the characters in the film -
they let you into their heads.
m.
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 06, 1999 11:20 AM
The novelization of howard the duck.
Isnt that just the ultimate
cool/trash cultural artifact?
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WiseGuy
Operative |
posted December 06, 1999 12:27 PM
It will never happen. Never never never. Ever ever. Amen.
(this from the guy who said that Titanic would sink without
trace. Mystic Mug, they call me).
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 06, 1999 03:49 PM
Isn't there a law that says all film adaptions must be written by
Alan Dean Foster?
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grant
Operative |
posted December 06, 1999 05:10 PM
I loved his adaptations of the Star Trek Saturday morning
cartoons.....
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floodcountry
Initiate |
posted December 06, 1999 05:52 PM
What it really boils down to is that for films to be done well the
creator should have allot of say and just because they suddenlly
have a movie budget they shouldn't believe all that glitters is
great, sometimes less is more. Invisibles has great potential
though. I'd love to see a film version of that one cover with all
the larval people from Volume two. Oh yeah. Hell, as long as the
movie has pretty lights, swear words and tits, who cares, right?
Just kidding. Can you really see Jim Crow being embraced by America?
We suck over here. I'd love it if the film included some plot thread
from the issue with the demon crack that controls people as voodoo
zombies.
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Naraoia
Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 09:55 AM
How did people feel about Johnny Mnemonic? I actually enjoyed it...
but a list of other things I enjoy would probably get as many
groans. Gibson was involved in every stage of that one, as I
remember, and still it didn't work out for most people. As for Jim
Crow: that's a real problem. The movie would need a very small
number of characters to focus on: even the Matrix only really boiled
down to three (Morpheus, Eno--er, Neo, and Agent Smith). Five--and
we all know who they would be--would be stretching it. Grant has had
years to develop all those characters. How could he do justice even
to one in two hours? Boy alone would be a trilogy. Ragged Robin? A
twelve hour mini-series. And don't get me started on how long it
would take to explain the class dynamics that make up Jack Frost to
American audiences.
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 05:31 PM
I doubt a movie would explore the characters in as much depth as the
comic has.
It would probably keep them at the level of their
basic stereotypes , but that shouldn't really matter if it was
loaded with matrix/fightclub style "wow!" factor.
Naraioa: surely trinity counts as a main character in the matrix
too?
(I , for one , was focusing on her)
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Naraoia
Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 07:36 PM
70sMan: Yeah, I thought about that--I seem to be the only het male
on earth who didn't fall in love with her. On purely intellectual
grounds I suppose she was attractive but I couldn't get past the
heroin-addict look (even if it was organic to the plot). Thinking
about what actually happens in the movie, though... you could cut
Trinity and other than that incredible opening sequence you wouldn't
lose much. What does she really do, other than fly the helicopter
and tell Neo she loves him? In terms of honest-to-heck important
central characters in the movie, I stand by my three.
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 09:02 AM
She kicks a great deal of ass.
And surely that was the point of
the exercise?
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Naraoia
Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 07:29 PM
OK, 70sman, you win--there are now four main characters in the
Matrix. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways 
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Cochese
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 11:32 AM
that's the one thing that really pissed me off about Matrix..."you
can't die- I love you!" Oh fuck off... Bloody hollywood
cheesemongers... An Invisibles film would by default be cool, though
I'm not holding out too much hope (Artisan films were last said to
be working on a Doctor Who film which came to nish...)
though it
would be better served as a TV series, straight adaptation of the
comic. Yes! My vote goes for that!
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 11:43 AM
..But what about the law saying that all serious TV series have to
be mundane , mediocre , straight faced and totally uninteresting?
(with the exception of Neil Gaimans neverwhere  )
and buffy. 
[This message has been edited by 70sman (edited December 09,
1999).]
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 06:09 PM
What would happen is that hollywood would hire a bunch of Americans
to play Kind Mob and the gang and not even bother faking the
accents. Hollywood is conviced that americans are afraid of English
accents. They think you brits speak a whole different language. It
would suck ass even if they let GM be involved. The Crow is a good
example of a film where the creator was involved and it still turned
out to only have a glimpse of the beauty of the comic. Face it,
Hollywood sucks.
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Naraoia
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 07:35 PM
Sandfarmer: they do speak a whole other language... check out some
of the other threads around here. After years of watching Absolutely
Fabulous and Blackadder I've come to the realization that after two
hundred years of divergent slang, American and British English are
going in opposite directions. I like the Brit stuff better,
actually--but not enough to start talking in a fake accent to
impress girls at parties (or should that be to "chat up birds round
the local?")
Note to Our Friends Across the Pond: please do not be offended.
Feel free to criticize or correct my idiom but please don't be
offended! I love you guys, really!
Signed,
A Colonial
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 11:12 PM
Hmm. It probably should be "chat up birds DOWN the local", but
otherwise, okay.
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King Mob
Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 01:27 AM
I've long thought that the actor who played Tom in Lock, Stock, and
Two Smoking Barrels would make a perfect King Mob. Millia Jovovich
(5th element girl) could be robin.
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 01:34 AM
neverwhere was deeply flawed and hokey-looking. the novel was a
piece of shite. I'm interested to see what the neverwhere movie will
turn out like.
I liked Johnny Mnemonic, but I didn't read the book. After I'd
seen it I felt that there was something wrong - that somehow a film
that for all intents and purposes looked like it was going down the
standard hollywood trail (like Strange Days), but then it didn't.
"Huh", I thought, and then I checked out the credits and saw that
Gibson had done the screenplay. That explained it for me.
Does anyone know how you get into novelisations? Do they still
even publish them?
m.
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number nun
Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 11:02 PM
i sleep in a drawer!
-kerneys unnamed son
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Jackie Susann
Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 11:49 PM
Surely the only way to make a halfway decent Invisibles film, given
that there's no way to cram the entire three volumes into one film,
is to give it to some auteur who can spin it off into her/his own
style? Terry Gilliam springs to mind.
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 01:18 PM
Yeah, Gilliam gets my vote. By the way, I always thought Grant was a
little off the mark in making Dane a Scouser. I know it fitted with
the Lennon-as-Godhead motif, but I always read him as a Manc.
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70sman
Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 05:28 PM
I think the best part of the story to film would have to be Black
Science.
It's got everything - loads of violence, a good lot of
headfucking stuff, all the characters doing what they do best and
plenty of cool images.
If a good director filmed that straight
from the comic , it would just be SO COOL.
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Naraoia
Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 07:34 PM
Black Science would be good but you'd also need the introductory
bits with Dane... and how do you do that without Tom O' Bedlam?,
etc. etc. I'm afraid it would take about an hour and a half just to
explain what the hell is going on, and then you'd have ten minutes
for an actual story.
It's sad, but true. In movies you can't take anything for
granted--you have to tell people that not only has the wheel been
invented but that it has subsequently been given a number of useful
applications, just to explain the notion of a car chase. I had a
film teacher once who explained it like this: you have to pretend
that this is the first movie your viewer has ever seen, and give
them some time to get used to the idea, or you'll lose ninety
percent of your audience. (She meant it ironically, but the
principle is sound).
Maybe that isn't so true any more--our brains seem to be catching
up with our culture, or at least the parts of it that have existed
for a hundred years now--but it's still how movies are written.
A cult movie like Fire Walk with Me would be great but it would
bomb--which would have negative repercussions not just for the
studio but for Grant and for comics as a whole, as well. The big
comics explosion of a couple years ago was killed by bad comic
movies.
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