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Gentleman Assassin
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posted November 29, 1999 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone on this board actually watched a film that SCARED them?
The closest I have ever got was that old Project witch Blair thing, and that just made me feel uncomfortable. Sometimes I jump if things jump out at you, but apart from that all I've ever had is being freaked out by The Shining and the Omen, or made queasy by films like Dead Ringers.

grant
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posted November 29, 1999 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
The original Phantasm scared me.
Admittedly, I was pretty young when I first saw it, but it had that dreamlike anything can happen at any time quality to it.

There's a certain inescapable creepiness to stop motion animation by Jan Svankmajer (I've only seen "Alice") or the Brothers Quay.

70sman
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posted November 29, 1999 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
The Shining scared me.
You know the bit where you get a close up on Jacks evil face and he stares and stares and theres an optical illusion and you think his face is morphing into a demon .. and then you realize it isnt?
Um .. anyone else notice that?
No , really. You must have..

Loz
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posted November 29, 1999 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loz   Click Here to Email Loz     Edit/Delete Message
The Shining, like 2001, bored me rigid. I understand letting the tension build, but there's a point where you have to release it, but not Kubrick, oh no, here's 10 MORE minutes of the kid trundling around the hotel, here's 10 more minutes of the wife sobbing... Oh lookee! Jackie's pulling funny faces. Kubrick, much overated (though Dr. Strangelove WAS good).

Johnny7
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posted November 29, 1999 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny7   Click Here to Email Johnny7     Edit/Delete Message
"American Beauty" scared the piss out of me, but probably not in the sense you mean. It scared me because it told me "This is what your life will be in twenty years, you sad fuck!"

Remember when Quimper confronted KM and Roger in Black Science II? A fat and listless KM sitting in front of the television, all individuality sucked out of him.

That's my definition of true horror. "Blair Witch" bored me to tears.

Andrew/Alex
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posted November 29, 1999 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andrew/Alex     Edit/Delete Message
Exactly. To me, "real world" Kay Challis crying at the Brooklyn Bridge (?), Cliff Steele comitting "suicide", the kids at Harmony House; those scare me more then some fuck-up with a knife. Only marginally, though, my emotions are arbitrary and almost nonexistand. But I digress.

Ganesha
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posted November 29, 1999 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
Tch! No, these WORRY you. 'Scared' has more immediacy to it - and I, for one, WAS scared by the Blair Witch Thingy. And the first half hour of Texas Chainsaw Massacre too, come to that...

Citizen Smith
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posted November 30, 1999 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
I get scared by zombie films.

panacynic
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posted November 30, 1999 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for panacynic   Click Here to Email panacynic     Edit/Delete Message
Pretty much any David Lynch, but mainly 'Eraserhead', though I think it's bollocks now, that scared the crap out me for my entire teenage years. Have to go along with 'The Shining' though, a true cacker.

ianjones
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posted November 30, 1999 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianjones   Click Here to Email ianjones     Edit/Delete Message
Alien /s (the movies and the comics) give me nightmares, deep scary visceral dreams.

Nore existentially 'Apocolypse Now' set deep nerves twanging the first time I saw it, and 'i couldn't relax and I couldn't relate' for days afterwards.

Cochese
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posted November 30, 1999 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cochese     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Ganesha about Texas Chainsaw massacre, there's a very unsettling atmosphere about that movie. funny/ sick. A lot of modern horror films are awful, though...The Scream syndrome. It was just sooo ironic and "ooh, this happens in slasher pics" that I was just counting down the seconds for when the next cliche should appear. And it always did, bang on cue. It could have been good, if they had actually tried to subvert a few of those cliches rather than just mention them and thus DRAW EVERYONE'S FUCKING ATTENTION TO THEM!!! And also, it does seem to be the Stupid Person's horror movie of choice. Carrie was good... Hellraiser movies are dumb fun...

Ganesha
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posted November 30, 1999 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah, and the original of The Vanishing. A seriously unpleasant film.

JackFrost
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posted November 30, 1999 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JackFrost   Click Here to Email JackFrost     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone here seen 'Gummo'? It's the second film by the guy that did 'Kids' (his name escapes me).

This movie scared me a little and also made me extremely uncomfortable while watching it. Not something movies do to me very often.
Gummo's really hard to describe so you'll really have to watch it to see what I mean. But, essentially, it's about a small hick town and it's inhabitants and all the depraved things they do. Guys who survive by shooting cats with BB guns to sell to a local Chinese restaraunt for meat. One guy lets others pay to fuck his retarded sister. Even huffing of glue fumes. It's shot in the same way as kids where it has that feel that it might be partly a documentary, and I swear some of the people he gets for the movie just can't be actors...

The only thing more frightening to me, is the reality which spawned this horror...

Cochese
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posted November 30, 1999 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cochese     Edit/Delete Message
I read about that film, apparantly he filmed it in (or near) his home town, using friends and neighbours as actors. So who knows?

Jackie Susann
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posted November 30, 1999 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, I thought Gummo was just beautiful, not scary or disturbing at all. I definitely recommend seeing it; a hilarious, nonlinear film poem for/about white trash youth. Its one of my favourite films of the 90s, without a doubt.

JackFrost
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posted November 30, 1999 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JackFrost   Click Here to Email JackFrost     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry, Jackie, I guess I needed to explain that I found 'beauty' in the film as well.

Really tho', nothing in the movie even made you cringe? Even a little?

Jackie Susann
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posted November 30, 1999 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
Well, there was a shot of a nasty-looking cat corpse that was mighty unpleasant, but overall, it was a very funny, moving film. Although I know afterwards I got into pretty much this same discussion with my friends, with them saying how disgusting/disturbing it had been, and how weird the people were, etc., and me saying no, it was beautiful. Obviously, it's a very subjective thing, and I guess has a lot to do with the kind of area you grew up in.

number nun
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posted December 01, 1999 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for number nun   Click Here to Email number nun     Edit/Delete Message
I thought the excorcist was scary as a kid, Gummo was just nasty...that whole weight lifting scene! uuugh! and the candy bar in the bath tub! I was wretching really bad during that scene...and the guy that pimps out his window licking sister (i know that isn't PC, ban me- please!) The best line in that movie "you got a lump on your titty" what the hell was that all about. That guy destroying the table was cool, someone told me that it was Mark Gonzoles, the famous skateboarder. That black midget was cool, too
I had to watch Beyond the Valley of the Dolls to get the bad taste out of my mind.

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 01, 1999 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
The thought that Harmony Korine is allowed to make films scares me more than the films themselves.
Although, his next one features him getting beaten up by total strangers. Can't say no to that...

Mr Cravat
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posted December 01, 1999 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Cravat   Click Here to Email Mr Cravat     Edit/Delete Message
I remember the original Evil Dead scaring me..
but that was in the early 80s in the video boom... when i was subjected to lots of so-called video nasties by my sisters then boyfriend who was a good few years older than me... and still is?!

Invisible_al
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posted December 02, 1999 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Invisible_al   Click Here to Email Invisible_al     Edit/Delete Message
One film that scared me was Dead Calm, which was odd because I'd seen a section on it on Film whatever that told you they were using all the classic horror film techniques.
Still scared me though.
Oh Event Horizon as well, mainly through the damage to eye motif. But I suspect that is classed as cheating.

panacynic
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posted December 03, 1999 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for panacynic   Click Here to Email panacynic     Edit/Delete Message
Just remembered another one, which has been heavily discussed elsewhere in the nexus : Pi. That scene where he was tentatively pushing his pen into the brain made me shudder, not cause it was vaguely gory, but for the weird headrushy camera cuts every time he poked it. I was upset that Higgins and T.C. weren't in it though.

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 05, 1999 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, does anyone know where the name of this thread comes from?
It's a film quote.

WiseGuy
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posted December 06, 1999 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WiseGuy   Click Here to Email WiseGuy     Edit/Delete Message
You were just dying for someone else to ask that question before you had to do it yourself, weren't you? Well, got in just before I did, so patience, young one, patience...

Yes, please tell me, nownownow, it's ringing cyclopean bells in my head...

I've already mentioned the Child-Catcher out of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang somewhere else. Roeg's Don't Look Now turned me into a tiny Wise puddle on the ground, and still does. Blair Witch was just creepy, which isn't the same thing.

And I agree with Ganesha about Worry Vs. Fear - horror isn't about confronting people with the secret darkness in the world, it's about scaring seven kinds of sparkling shite out of them, and running away laughing to do it to somebody else.

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 06, 1999 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I was bursting.
It comes from Schizopolis, an invisible film if ever I saw one, written, directed by and starring Steven Soderburgh of sex, lies, and out of sight.

NAMELESS NUMBERHEAD MAN: Also, I don't believe a word you say, because the other day you said 'appearances' and I thought you said 'a fear is this'...

MUNSON: Wow.

N N M: 'A fear is this'.

PornoHolocaust
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posted December 07, 1999 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PornoHolocaust     Edit/Delete Message
Return to Oz scared the hell out of me as a kid. Those guys on the rollerblades still scare me.

70sman
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posted December 07, 1999 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
My parents never let me forget the fact that I didnt sleep for a week after watching PeeWee's Big Adventure.

RAIN KING
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posted December 07, 1999 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAIN KING   Click Here to Email RAIN KING     Edit/Delete Message
let's see....the commercial for the EXORCIST:THE HERETIC(i was a wee lad at the time), SCANNERS(i remember walking around paranoid for days after this film came out),THE BEAST WITHIN( awful movie, but the human-cicada-thing really fucked with my head for at least two years),THE OMEN 2(at one point in my adolescents i was afraid of the possibility of me being the anti-CHRIST),the first nightmare on elm street(although, i don't know why,really.),beneath the planet of the apes( the subterranian city with those mutants who worshipped the atomic bomb),THE SHINING, JACOBS LADDER, NAKED LUNCH, VIDEODROME, and more recently david lynch's LOST HIGHWAY. GUMMO was sick, twisted, and beautiful, but it didn't scare me.

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look!NickWaddam!
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posted December 07, 1999 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
My friend worked on the sound for Event Horizon.

Shame.

I think it's a bit shit.

The Shining? Yes, that film scared the shit out of me.

Don't look Now.
Why has no one mentioned this film? It's fucking horrible.

Twin Peaks: Laura Palmer screaming at Cooper in the Black Lodge.

I've seen a room full of people curl up into the foetus position watching that scene.

Some of Harold Pinter's plays are pretty disturbing. The menace lurking in the threshold, or, as the man himself put it:

"The weasel under the cocktail cabinet."

Naraoia
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posted December 07, 1999 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
Sneer if you will, but I have to admit Blair Witch Project scared the living hell out of me. I was sitting there curled up in my seat surrounded by frat boys and rave kids who had suddenly gone dead silent--they thought they had come for a good time--and every time it would start to get dark (in the film) I would go, "noooo.... noooo.... the bad stuff always happens at night..." Afterward I slept with all the lights on. Probably my fault for going to a midnight show. A friend of mine explained why it scared us so much: there's this thing out there that you can't see, that rules your entire environment, that you can't fight, and it HATES you. Absolutely hates everything you stand for, your very existence, your continued life. The worst part was that it just wouldn't kill them... it would tear off the one kid's jaw and make him scream in the night but it would not kill them and end this thing... and those handprints on the wall... the final scene didn't bother me at first, I was just like, they're being clever, finally, and I can handle that. Ten minutes later, of course, I said out loud, "Oh, right, it made him stand in the corner--" and all the fear came roaring back.

Qliphshifter
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posted December 07, 1999 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Qliphshifter   Click Here to Email Qliphshifter     Edit/Delete Message
Laura Palmer screaming in the Black Lodge really fucked with me too. Probably my favorite David Lynch moment, and believe me, I have many.

Heather's screams in The Blair Witch Project were pretty rough too.

There were moments in The Exorcist III that really scared the piss outta me. I enjoyed it much more than the first one.

Citizen Smith
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posted December 07, 1999 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
The Haunting - not the new shite (although I say that and I haven't even seen it yet) - but the old B&W original. There's one scene in particular, in which the two women are alone in a darkened bedroom, apparently crashing together in the same bed. They're holding hands because they're shit scared, and one's chatting away to take their minds off it all, and she keeps mentioning to the other that she's holding her hand too tightly, until she can't stand it any more and switches the bedroom light on - and the other woman's sitting in a chair at the other end of the bedroom. She was never in the bed at all. Brr. Gave me the liqourice runs for weeks (Hmm. Sir Henry at Rawlinson End. Think I'll just pop that one in the more quotable quotes thread in the Core).

Mystery Gypt
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posted December 08, 1999 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystery Gypt   Click Here to Email Mystery Gypt     Edit/Delete Message
gotta say, biggest terror i ever got from a movie was when i was very young and i saw Watership Down in the theatre. fuck that was terrifying -- those nazi rabbits ripping off rabbit ears and the scene when their bulldozed; and then i was horrified of the Black Rabbit of Death for at least a full month. could barely stand to be in the dark.

hm. rabbits.

70sman
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posted December 08, 1999 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
Oh , WHEN are they (the elite filmmakers of the world) going to get their act togehter and make a proper Lovecraft adaption?

oh , and they (the fucking bastards who rule the world) CANCELLED Fire Walk With Me , which should have been on TV last week because of some lameass sporting event!!
That makes me so angry!!
Especially after reading all the good stuff about it here! Grr..

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Jackie Susann
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posted December 08, 1999 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
Fire Walk With Me would probably have been unwatchable on tv with all the rude bits cut out. Its probably unwatchable anyway if you're not intimately familiar with the tv series.

And surely the most terrifying Twin Peaks moment is the vision Maddy has of Bob coming across the lounge room and climbing over that couch? I'm getting scared just typing it out, seriously.

grant
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posted December 08, 1999 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES!!

Yes!

Scared the pants off me as a boy.

I like David Cronenberg immensely, but for some reason, he's not what I'd call "scary." Same for Mr. Lynch.

But the original The Haunting will indeed give the screaming heebie jeebies. That face in the wallpaper, which wasn't really there.....


Brr.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted December 08, 1999 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
I have a feeling that my younger sister's obsession with Twin Peaks, is, in part, the product of a need to dispel a Demon.

When Rosie was little My Father and my Step Mother used to watch Twin Peaks. They'd tape it for the kids, but veto any of the episodes that contained Bob or other scary stuff.

One day Rosie thought it would be fun to take a look at one of those episodes.

She turned the TV on and pressed play.

And something came lurching across a couch...

"That's Bob", my Dad said, flicking the off switch.

Rosie tells me she didn't sleep a wink that night, and that the nightmares started shortly after....

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Twig the Wonder Kid
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posted December 08, 1999 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twig the Wonder Kid   Click Here to Email Twig the Wonder Kid     Edit/Delete Message
Yes grant, yes. Beneath the Planet of the Apes is minor masterpiece, it literally DANCES along that thin border between cool and crap. I particlarly rate that scene where Charlton Heston fights with Pseudo Charlton Heston. But I'm presuming it was the telepathic aliens that did it for you eh grant.

As Nigel Tuffnel once said, "It's a thin line between clever and stupid"

For me the scariest moment in Twin Peaks was when James serenaded Donna and Maddy with his goddawful girly singing.

70sman
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posted December 09, 1999 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
I'm too young to have ever seems site nor sound of Twin Peaks but from what Ive heard , I might very well love it.
And Ive hated EVERY serious television series ever made. (with the exception of Neil Gaimans Neverwhere. Please dont hurt me.)
Whats so good about twinpeaks? is it worth seeking out the videos?
Seeing the movie on TV was going to sort that out for me , but it was cancelled so now you lot are going to have to.

RAIN KING
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posted December 09, 1999 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAIN KING   Click Here to Email RAIN KING     Edit/Delete Message
Bob in Laura Palmers room....
now that definitely scared the piss out of me.
And yes(i'll probably get hanged for this) the Exorcist III did seem to be the scariest of the lot. that is probably because i saw the first two out of context, so to speak.
As for Twin Peaks the series, the first season is,hands down, the best!

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