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Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 01, 1999 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, Christmas. My favourite pagan-festival-converted-to-sub-christian-consumer-fest-let's-spoil-the-kids-pretend-we're-enjoying-ourselves-meeting-familial-obligations-and-give-our-parents-a-coronary-from-stre ss-guilt-trip-tacky-shit-TV event!

How is everyone here spending christmas? This year my family's going to barbecue the turkey...

70sman
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posted December 02, 1999 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
Ho , fuckin' Ho.

Id hate Christmas if it wasnt for the fact that people give me stuff for free.

Ganesha
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posted December 02, 1999 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
No turkey this year, so I'll just have to choke the chicken instead...

Naraoia
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posted December 02, 1999 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
This was the year I found paganism and guess what?

For family reasons my parents cancelled Xmas this year! (no, not like the Grinch. More like my Dad's going in for chemotherapy in the middle of December). Now I'm just looking forward to Yule.

There are no fucking coincidences.

Sure is annoying listening to all those carols, though.

Citizen Smith
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posted December 03, 1999 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Christmas is fucking great. I'll get up at the crack of dawn, slap on my Frank Sidebottom Christmas album, rip open my pressies, go to my mum and dad's, listen to the ramblings of my grannies, eat loads of food, watch the Queen's speech and then fall asleep in front of the Bond movie. I'm all for a revolution, but it ain't taking that from me.

Imp0zz!bL
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posted December 03, 1999 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Imp0zz!bL   Click Here to Email Imp0zz!bL     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, well ... you people just don't know how to enjoy yourselves.

Cochese
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posted December 03, 1999 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cochese     Edit/Delete Message
What what??? The food! The booze!! Pressies!!! Family! yeah, so it's not all good, but Christmas is topped. And then of course New Year. Groovy!

Mystery Gypt
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posted December 05, 1999 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystery Gypt   Click Here to Email Mystery Gypt     Edit/Delete Message
i'm "giving up" xmas for the first time this year. mom&dad r a little sad. instead i'm going to drive out to new mexico and hang out in the desert.

all probably hang out long enough to go check out Roswell for New years -- here comes the mothership!

Citizen Smith
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posted December 05, 1999 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Cochese, looks like us hard Northern types are the only ones who enjoy Christmas.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted December 05, 1999 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
No, I enjoy Xmas!

My friends gather together; I get really pissed and buggered for roughly 3 weeks; I eat a lot; I watch films; I get presents; I buy presents; I go out on new years eve...

I am not ashamed of being a priveliged bastard.

Some of my friends used to hate Xmas because it meant spending time with their family, which they didn't like, but they fucking love it by the time they get to my house.

ianjones
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posted December 05, 1999 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianjones   Click Here to Email ianjones     Edit/Delete Message
It's cool to be home with small children. It's a good time to spend quality time with them and help them understand the difference between bogus materialism and having a laugh. I used to think my children would get turned into greed monsters by crap TV, but it hasn't happened.

And if they're is one thing church is good for its singing at Christmas.

When the kids are older we'll go back to interesting christmas, occupying remote farmhouses with finely attuned friends. But right now I'm looking forward to introducing my 10 year to the invisibles.

Over the last three years we've read animal man and doom patrol several times.

Last Xmas we read all of Sandman: so this year its the big one. I'm thinking of keeping a diary on line of her responses. Is this a good idea?

[This message has been edited by ianjones (edited December 05, 1999).]

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 05, 1999 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
yes, christmas is best enjoyed by reflecting on it's pagan origins.
Guess what though... Going to Vegas this year...

grant
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posted December 05, 1999 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
Is 10 too young for all that sex'n'drugs and throbbing uterus dissection table stuff?

That being said, the reactions would be a lot of fun.

I'm gearing my plans more for New Years than Christmas. Christmas takes care of itself.
New Years will take planning.
My past social center for that holiday was a married couple who divorced this year.

Chaos in 2000.

Geist
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posted December 05, 1999 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geist     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with cochese and smith:
Fortunately my family ordeal usually only lasts until 9:00 max..
So at 10:00 I am going to meet some old buddies in our old pub. Usually we don't leave before dawn...
It's fun!


Citizen Smith
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posted December 05, 1999 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
One thing we maybe should do is reclaim the old Father Christmas in his green suit before Coca Cola hijacked him.

And do you think we could get Grant Morrison to do an Invisibles Christmas special?

I'm thinking maybe "Santastorm"

Ho, ho, ho.

70sman
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posted December 06, 1999 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
It would be great to have a REALLY CHEESY invisibles christmas special with some half-arsed scooby doo style plot about Sir miles dressing as santa and stealing presents off little kids or something. And it would end with all the characters having a jolly singalong in Snow covered victorian london and then hanging up their (supergroovy invisibles style) stockings in front of the fire place and going to bed.
Think of the possibilities..

Chip
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posted December 06, 1999 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chip   Click Here to Email Chip     Edit/Delete Message
Much as I hate to do this, since I'm greatly amused by this thread, I'm shunting it over to the Core. See you over there!

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 06, 1999 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
Ah! The Core!

Nick
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posted December 06, 1999 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     Edit/Delete Message
on Christmas Day you can't get sore,
Your fellow man you must adore,
There's time to rob him all the more...
The other three hundred and sixty four!

Relations, sparing no expense'll
Send some useless old utensil,
Or a matching pen and pencil
(Just the thing I need, how nice).

It doesn't matter how sincere it is,
Nor how heartfelt the spirit,
Sentiment will not endear it,
What's important is The Price....

(Thank you, Tom Leherer)

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 06, 1999 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
That poem was extremely nice
and also contained good advice.

Naraoia
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posted December 07, 1999 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
The only part of Christmas I'm really going to miss this year (it got called off in my neck of the woods, remember?) is the music--not that I can avoid it but in public all you hear is the annoying sugary-sweet renditions of songs that ought to be done passionate and huge. Still, we Pagans still get to keep Greensleeves--no matter how much you Xians butcher it and change the lyrics, it's still Greensleeves and it's still magic.

Twig the Wonder Kid
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posted December 07, 1999 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twig the Wonder Kid   Click Here to Email Twig the Wonder Kid     Edit/Delete Message
I spent last Christmas in Birmingham (uk) where it was officially cancelled by the city council in favour of celebrating something called 'Winterval'. Brummies are a strange lot.

The best thing about Christmas for me is John Peel's Festive Fifty.

Jack Fear
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posted December 07, 1999 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jack Fear   Click Here to Email Jack Fear     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Naroia, for the word on Christmas music. I actually direct my church choir, and yes, "passionate and huge" is exactly what I'm trying for. I've been planning this year's Christmas program since the moment we played the final note of last year's.

So how will I be spending Christmas? In church all afternoon and evening Christmas Eve, til noon Christmas Day, come home with vocal cords tattered and bloody, take a quick nap, open presents, try to squeeze in some cheer and glee, and then--agk!--back to church the next day, cos it's Sunday!!!

[This message has been edited by Jack Fear (edited December 07, 1999).]

levon
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posted December 07, 1999 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for levon   Click Here to Email levon     Edit/Delete Message
My birthday is on christmas eve. I use it as an excuse not to buy anyone presents. I'll be too happy to be out of school to notice Christmas, but New Years should be a blast. I plan on looting an electronics store or something equally as destructive. Destroy.

[wisp]
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posted December 07, 1999 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for [wisp]   Click Here to Email [wisp]     Edit/Delete Message
christmas usually means freedom from academia land, but this new years i will focus on exiting the city(nyc). The scene at times square this year will be spookier than it ever was. all sorts of rumours are floating around(ever see Strange Days?).

d.

Ganesha
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posted December 08, 1999 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
This is my first non-working Christmas for three years, so I'll go out with the boyf on Christmas Eve (he lives in a little village in the wilds of West Lothian) and twiddle my thumbs while he and his family attend midnight mass in the little church. While I'm not averse to the idea, I have no Christian leanings whatsoever and would feel rather hypocritical if I visited God's supposed 'house' again, after all these years...

Citizen Smith
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posted December 08, 1999 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Christmas has never been about God for me. Last year a few of us piled into a church for midnight mass (which was actually at 7pm - bummer) after a few ales, in a bid to get some good old-fashioned Christmas spirit. I'm afraid I just sat there dying for a slash while all these old biddies did dead arcane things, all the while desperately wanting to get back into the pub.

Topper
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posted December 09, 1999 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Topper   Click Here to Email Topper     Edit/Delete Message
I'm the same way. Once when I had minor surgery a sister came 'round the next morning, a Sunday, and offered me communion. Surprised I flustered and she said "It says Catholic on your chart." Which of course I'd told the receptionist out of habit. I declined: I hadn't been to church in years and it didn't seem right. On the plus side if I have to go into the hospital again I'll know to say Discordian.

So xmas for me is friends, family, good cheer, Guiness, an Eve of passion, and a special treat for the clubs that night. If people want to celebrate for another reason, that's fine. I don't mind co-opting their holiday for my own (Invisible?) purpose.

Naraoia
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posted December 09, 1999 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
Hey [wisp], what kind of rumors? Are they going to kill the sun king? Maybe it's where you line up to get your electronic tag? Or maybe they just plan on everyone holding hands and singing "We are the World"?

Nick
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posted December 10, 1999 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     Edit/Delete Message
Topper, has it occurred to you that if you say 'Discordian', you will wake up to the tender feeling of being covered in hot dog buns and paraded naked and anaesthetised through the streets of Colchester with a tattoo of Monica Lewinksi on your backside?

Just a thought. Registered Discordian priests have bedisde manners which can be a little...humour-based. And yes, there really are registered Discordians.

Naraoia
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posted December 10, 1999 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
I thought you just became a Dischordian by wishing very hard with your eyes shut--or maybe by carrying around one of those POPE cards. How do you register?

Nick
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posted December 11, 1999 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     Edit/Delete Message
With the State of California, thereby making it legal for you to perform marriages, funerals, and other clerical functions. Those pronouncements are then legal across the U.S., and by implication in any legally aligned country.

Naturally, if you put Discordian on your entry form when being admitted to Hospital, they will check the register of religions and come up with the kind of person who could be bothered to do that...a hard-core mindfuck artist.

70sman
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posted December 11, 1999 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
good goddess , who'd of thought it?
An Official Discordian funeral..

my parents don't know what they're in for!

Geist
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posted December 11, 1999 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geist     Edit/Delete Message
Now that's an idea!
Yeah, I'm gonna help my mum decorating the tree this year, and I 'll use lots of golden apples!

Naraoia
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posted December 11, 1999 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
Do they have Discordian baptisms? Maybe in apple sauce? What about Discordian circumcisions? I'd like to see a Discordian choir, everyone singing in a different key.

Topper
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posted December 13, 1999 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Topper   Click Here to Email Topper     Edit/Delete Message
Nick, maybe you aren't familiar with the US health care system. I'd be getting off light.

70sman said "my parents don't know what they're in for!"

Now, would they be surprised at your own zany funeral or would you have clowns and accordion players at *their* funeral, the poor souls?

[wisp]
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posted December 13, 1999 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for [wisp]   Click Here to Email [wisp]     Edit/Delete Message
Naraoia: it was rather vague, but it had something to do with some sort of pirate video that has been going around having to do with chaos in Times Square. If i remember the exact 'source', i will let you know.

grant
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posted December 13, 1999 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
I think I mentioned the Y2K panic video in the Exploratory.

70sman
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posted December 14, 1999 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
I was thinking more : acrobatic dwarfs performing on the coffin , an improvised firework display , the MC5 playing "Going Underground" and free kool aid for everybody.

Naraoia
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posted December 14, 1999 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
I want a burning wicker man full of high school cheerleaders and prom queens in the middle of Times Square and a danse macabre out in front of that big cathedral and all the trees in Central Park cut down to make makeshift pulpits for all the wide-eyed prophets and... oh, dang. Nobody really cares, do they? People burned out on the millenial fever about a year and a half ago. That's what we get for going post-ironic.

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