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grant
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posted November 30, 1999 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
Just got this one in one of the comics Ganesha sent me. I'd actually read it before, but it seemed even better this time.

It's from a book on hiking.

"Man, with all his knowledge and his pride, needs to know sometimes nothing and feel nothing, but that he is a marvelous atom in a marvelous world." -- Frederick Harrison

[wisp]
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posted December 01, 1999 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for [wisp]   Click Here to Email [wisp]     Edit/Delete Message
I like how Vonnegut describes 'it':
In the beginning and in the end was Nothingness. Nothingness implied the possiblity of somethingness. it is impossible to make something from nothing. Therefore, Nothingness could only *imply* Somethingness. That implication is the Universe. We are wisps of that implication.

or how Russell Edson phrased 'it', "teetering bulbs of dread and dream"

i'm not really sure why i chose the term 'it'- nor do i fully understand why i thought this was an appropriate reply to the previous post. Ah well.

the fuses have been lit!

d.

70sman
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posted December 01, 1999 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
"The theory of space and time is a cultural artifact made possible by the invention of graph paper."
Jacque Vallee

Ganesha
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posted December 01, 1999 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
Grant: I sent you a book on HIKING?!! Christ, I must be losing it...

grant
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posted December 01, 1999 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
Don't sweat it, sir. It was in one of the Concretes. Brilliant bit.
I'd actually read that story in one of the collected issues, but the horror stuff at then end was all new.

Citizen Smith
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posted December 01, 1999 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Favourite quote is from Aubrey's Brief Lives,which is sort of a Who's Who of the 17th Century (ish), and is from the entry on Carlo Fantom, a Croatian mercenary who fought for both Cromwell and King Charles I. Fantom is quoted thus: "I care not for your cause, I come to fight for your halfe-crowne and your handsome woemen. My father was a Roman Catholiq and so was my grandfather. I have fought for the Christians against the Turkes, and for the Turkes against the Christians" (sic).
I also love Gnossos Pappadopoulis's refrain from Richard Farina's Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me: "I am invisible... and exempt. Immunity has been granted to me, for I do not lose my cool," which is pretty fucking ace.
I asked if anyone else had read the book over in the Oratory, but either no-one has or they were put off by my over-long and over-enthusiastic ramblings. Check it out.

grant
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posted December 01, 1999 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
It's been recommended to me before; it's on my list.

Unfortunately (for my employers) I just discovered GK Chesterton, thanks to the Pokey knockoff celebrated in the Oratory. A coworker asked who he was, so I started digging up bios and quotes.

Here are two, one of which would look great on the masthead of the bomb:

>>
All centralized systems mean the rule of the few; and industrial machinery is the most centralized of all systems. If the modern American really wants to know what his fathers meant by democracy, he will never learn it from a Ford car. He must make the supreme and awful sacrifice. He must get out and walk.
>>
But those dealing in the actual manufacture of mind are dealing in a very explosive material. The material is not merely the clay of which man is mas-ter, but the truths of semblances of truth which have a certain mastery over man. The material is explosive because it must be taken seriously. The men writing books really are throwing bombs.
>>
and one extra:
>>
The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason.

Ganesha
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posted December 01, 1999 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
I live and breathe by an obscure Russian proverb:

'Love is not a potato; you cannot throw it out the window.'

grant
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posted December 02, 1999 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
In times of trouble, I often repeat a sage Irish proverb I learned off a Berlitz Irish tape: "The windy day is not the day for scallops."

Naraoia
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posted December 02, 1999 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
I know it sounds like overinflated ego, but here are a few I made up myself, using G.K. Chesterton's inversion technique:

The future is epilogue. (The past is prologue)

The chains have nothing to lose but their workers.

Opium is the religion of the masses.

It simply comes down to this: Pagans are right, and Christians are wrong. (Song of Roland: "Chretiens sont droit, et Paiens sont faux" [please correct my spelling, etc.--haven't read that one in decades).

70sman
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posted December 02, 1999 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
"The swine who stole my dog doesnt know what he did to me!"
Adolh Hitler , 1922

Citizen Smith
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posted December 03, 1999 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Check out the film Sir Henry at Rawlinson End by Vivyan Stanshall and starring Trevor Howard for some of the best quotable lines in movies:

"I never met a man I didn't mutilate."

"If I had all the money I've spent on drink, I'd spend it on drink."

"Afterlife, aftershave, never believed in any of it."

Jackie Susann
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posted December 03, 1999 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
"I'm not a snob. Ask anybody. Well, anybody who matters." - Simon LeBon

"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the
law." - David Dinkins, New York City Mayor.

"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life." - Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal anti-smoking campaign.

"I liked that one line of the poem you read. I forget what it was." - Erik Mattheis, to Henry Rollins.

Citizen Smith
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posted December 03, 1999 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Shit, I read this in something just today and I can't remember where, but some woman was sitting next to some guy in America and she said to him: "My friends have bet me that I can't get three words out of you tonight."
His reply: "You lose."

Citizen Smith
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posted December 03, 1999 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Groucho: "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member."

Jackie Susann
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posted December 03, 1999 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
Groucho as President of Freedonia in Duck Soup: "If any form of pleasure be exhibited/ Report to me and it will be prohibited."

70sman
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posted December 03, 1999 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
"exams: when the foolish ask questions which the wise cannot answer."
Oscar Wilde

"When in doubt - fuck it! When not in doubt , get in doubt!"
Malyclpse the younger

Cochese
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posted December 03, 1999 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cochese     Edit/Delete Message
"If music be the food of love, put that piano in batter"
-Gilbert the alien

Naraoia
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posted December 03, 1999 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
"Anything worth doing is worth doing badly" --G.K. Chesterton

King Mob
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posted December 04, 1999 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for King Mob   Click Here to Email King Mob     Edit/Delete Message
ìItís only after youíve lost everything that youíre free to do anything.î
Chuck Palahniukís ìFight Clubî

ìDemocracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.î----------------------?

ìIn fact, let us not mince wordsÖ the management is terrible! Weíve had a string of embezzlers, frauds, liars, and lunatics making a string of catastrophic decisions. This is plain fact. But who elected them? It was you! You who appointed these people! You who gave them the power to make decisions for you! While Iíll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after century seems to me to be nothing short of deliberate. You have encouraged these malicious incompetents, who have made your working life a shambles. You have accepted without question their senseless orders. You have allowed them to fill your workplace with dangerous and unproven machines. All you had to say was ìNo.î You have no spine. You have no pride. You are no longer an asset to the company.î
V speaking to the citizens of Britain, Alan Mooreís ìV For Vendetta #5î

Citizen Smith
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posted December 05, 1999 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
"I feel like a pig shat in my head" - Withnail, describing the mother of all hangovers.

70sman
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posted December 05, 1999 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
I will refrain from quoting the entire script of the above movie , and will simply say:
"A coward Withnail , you are. An expert on bulls you are not!"
Marwood.

"£1?? You can shove it up your arse and fuck off while you're doing it!"
Withnail

Citizen Smith
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posted December 05, 1999 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
"As a youth I used to weep in butcher's shops" - Montague Withnail.
Go on, 70sman, the whole script!

sleazenation
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posted December 05, 1999 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sleazenation     Edit/Delete Message
"Right you Fucker, I'm going to do the washing up!"
(This could very easily become the 'Withnail and I' page)

I also like that line in the third man when Harry is talking about all the wars that have occured in italy (paraphrase alert)'but they had poetry they had da vinci and the renaisance in switzerlan they had 2000 years of brotherly love and what have they invented? the coocoo clock.'

but back to withnail and I

" we are millionaires, bring us the finest wines know to humanity!"

[This message has been edited by sleazenation (edited December 05, 1999).]

Imp0zz!bL
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posted December 05, 1999 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Imp0zz!bL   Click Here to Email Imp0zz!bL     Edit/Delete Message
How about 'Nothing's Imp0zz!bL' (Sorry, i couldn't help myself)

Gentleman Assassin
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posted December 05, 1999 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gentleman Assassin     Edit/Delete Message
You get fucked and then you learn.
Can't remember who said that, but it's so true...

Citizen Smith
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posted December 05, 1999 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
Once said to a friend of mine by a burned out old punk: "Win or lose, have some booze."

floodcountry
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posted December 06, 1999 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for floodcountry   Click Here to Email floodcountry     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a few quotes that make me happy in the loins:


"The more you know the brain, the more it homicides"-from "The Bloat" by The Melvins


"Be careful about reading health books. You might die of misprint."-Mark Twain


Here are several others all from

AN AUTHENTIC APPETITE IS SERVICED BY AN INAUTHENTIC DIET, a diatribe accompanying the Huggy Bear album Weaponry Listens To Love:


"We as irregular young people have to gob up phleghm on a refusal. On occasion. On an M.C.

On and On"


"Young social climbers this week following numerous disasters all declared they were in the mood for "it" "


and lastly...


"This week so we don't be thick we ditched establishments and institutions of cool/uncool. Following butchery of relentless interrogation we knew if we didn't want it."


that last one is raw.


Here's one more, this quote said to a room of people at a Keg party at my house by my friend Mike ArchDeacon of Madness as he stumbled wasted into the room and landed on my kitchen table:


"It's like...Uaarghblkaawwwhh...Have sex with me...BEER!!!"

g.e.humans inc
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posted December 06, 1999 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for g.e.humans inc   Click Here to Email g.e.humans inc     Edit/Delete Message
deeds cannot dream what dreams can do
time is a tree (this life a leaf)
i am for you and you for me
just so long and long enough


can't recall the author, but it's the words that count right?

70sman
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posted December 06, 1999 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
"Accident blackspot? Accident blackspot!? These arent accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!Throw yourself into the road darling , you havent got a chance!!"
--Withnail , again.

sleazenation
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posted December 06, 1999 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sleazenation     Edit/Delete Message
"scrubbers!"
-withnail yet again

Citizen Smith
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posted December 06, 1999 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Citizen Smith     Edit/Delete Message
"I assure you I'm not drunk, officer, I've only had a few ales." - who else?

Twig the Wonder Kid
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posted December 06, 1999 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twig the Wonder Kid   Click Here to Email Twig the Wonder Kid     Edit/Delete Message
"'I fuck arses'. Who fucks arses? Maybe he fucks arses. Maybe he wrote this in some moment of drunken sincerity." - Marwood

"Monty you terrible cunt" - Withnail

sleazenation
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posted December 06, 1999 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sleazenation     Edit/Delete Message
Marwood- "we must leave we are in terrible danger, I've been called a ponse."
withnail- "what fucker said that?"
Homophobe- "I called him a ponse and now i'm calling you a ponse. Ponse!"
[this last part is paraphrased from memory]Withnail "Ah... whatever problem you have with my fri..uh associate i suggest you go outside and finish it"

and from an entirely different moment
"just imagine the size of his balls!" Withnail

This IS the withnail and I thread!

Jackie Susann
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posted December 06, 1999 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jackie Susann   Click Here to Email Jackie Susann     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, at risk of being a complete idiot, what is Withnail and I?

Naraoia
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posted December 06, 1999 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraoia   Click Here to Email Naraoia     Edit/Delete Message
If we're doing song lyrics:

"I know all the saddest people/most of them are dead now..." The Magnetic Fields

"Nobody's straight one hundred per cent/every soldier and sailor's potentially bent" Momus

"I guess the truth is nothing special but elusive anyway..." Shriekback

[wisp]
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posted December 07, 1999 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for [wisp]   Click Here to Email [wisp]     Edit/Delete Message
ohh, we like shriekback.

'like torches in the aeon flow, even suns flicker and die..' --Covenant

'i think it's all lovely hallucination, but i love it sorta' -Kerouac

'searching for an inheritance, undefiled, incorruptible and fadeth not away'- J. Bunyan

'here come the dreams that are split at the seams, better sew the sides, better get them dry-cleaned...' -pwei


70sman
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posted December 07, 1999 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
And you thought I was lying about the script.
Here are some choice extracts.
I really pity those who havent seen Withnail & I.


DANNY:.. the coal man went into court wearing a kaftan and a bell. this doesnt go down at all well. They can handle the kaftan but they cant handle the bell. So theres this judge sitting there in a cape like fucking batman with this really rather far out hat.."

WITHNAIL: A wig?

DANNY: No man , this was more like a long white hat.."

*********************

WITHNAIL: Why has my head gone numb?
I MUST HAVE BOOZE!
I *DEMAND* TO HAVE SOME BOOZE!

[he lunges towards the mantlepiece and grabs a can of lighter fluid]

MARWOOD: I wouldn't drink that if I were you.

WITHNAIL: Why not?

MARWOOD:Because I dont advise it. Even the wankers on the site wouldn't drink that. Its worse than meths!

WITHNAIL: Nonsense. This is a far superier drink to meths. The wankers dont drink it because they cant afford it!

[he throws his head back and pours the petrol down his throat]

WITHNAIL: Have we got anymore?

[Marwood shakes his head]

WITHNAIL: Liar! Whats in your toolbox?

MARWOOD: We have nothing! Sit down!

WITHNAIL: Liar! You've got anti-freeze!

MARWOOD: You bloody fool! You should never mix your drinks!

Ganesha
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posted December 07, 1999 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
I suspect it's completely pointless my asking this, but...

Am I the only person who didn't actually like Withnail & I? Is it just my irrational hatred of Richard E Grant's face/voice/existence or what?

Loz
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posted December 07, 1999 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loz   Click Here to Email Loz     Edit/Delete Message
Ganesha, you must work past your hatred of Richard E. Grant for beyond it is an incredible story, partly based on life. Two unemployed/unemployable actors live in unbearable squalor at the arse-end of the Sixties, Withnail and 'I' (or Marwood, though he is never named). They prevail upon Withnails Uncle Monty to spend a week at his cottage in the country. After going through various misadventures they are joined by Monty. Withnail, always one to talk big then cower when things go wrong, persuades Monty that Marwood is, like him, a toilet trader. Monty tries to seduce him, then finally, enters his room at night to have his way with him, "even if it must be by burglary!" Marwood narrowly avoids this fate by persuading him that it is Withnail who is gay, and cannot face it. Dejected, Monty leaves and the next day they return to London as Marwood discovers he's got a part in a play in Manchester. Once back home Marwood packs and leaves, Withnail accompanying him through the park to the train station swigging from a large bottle of wine, but eventually Marwood tells him he doesn't want Withnail to walk with him any further and goes on alone.
Bugger. Why can I never describe films without making them sound like a three hour film about turds? It is very funny, full of amazing one liners and the acting by the three main characters Withnail (Grant), Marwood (McGann) and Monty (Richard Griffiths) is excellent. Danny the Drug Dealer is also superb, and should have you in stiches.
For me though, despite all the comedy, my favourite scene is those last ones in the park when, all alone, Withnail quotes the 'paragon of animals' soliloquy from Hamlet.
During the Withnail weekend Bruce Robinson, the writer, said that his work was about victims, and that the film starts off with the victim being Marwood, but ends up with it being Withnail, and it's true.

And, as everyone else has...

"We want the finest wines available to humanity! We want them here and now!"

"Are you the farmer?"
"Of course he's the fucking farmer Withnail!"
"We've gone on holiday by mistake!"

"All hairdressers are employed by the government..."

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