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Topic: Do we fight? |
rakehell Initiate |
posted November 16, 1999 11:52 AM
Just want to know if and how people here are spreading 'Invisibles'
like ideas?
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grant Operative |
posted November 16, 1999 02:15 PM
I try, via my day job (UFO-inspired tabloid poet for the Sun
tabloid, in America) and with goofy pop songs over the Internet
about things like black holes and quantum loooove.
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levon Operative |
posted November 16, 1999 06:33 PM
I make posters with obscure subversive slogans sometimes, but i
havent had access to silkscreen supplies for a year.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 16, 1999 06:53 PM
As a psychiatrist, I reassure deluded and paranoid individuals that,
secretly, they're correct and there IS a grand conspiracy.
(Heh! Just kidding, Royal College of Psychiatrists! <Phew>
)
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look!NickWaddam! Operative |
posted November 16, 1999 06:56 PM
Yeah, I do. I punch a lot of people in the face. "C'mon then!" I
shout. Then we all "glass" each other.
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Loz Operative |
posted November 16, 1999 07:18 PM
I tried, then realised the Government had already indoctrinated all
the children via Childrens BBC and Otis the Aardvark so am currently
undergoing a rethink. However, I did persuade two pupils to read up
on gnosticism so they could then say stuff in their RS lesson to
piss off the teacher...
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70sman Operative |
posted November 16, 1999 07:37 PM
I use hidden messages in my bizarre comic strips (soon to be online
if they scan well). Unfortunately , they currently have a
readership of about six. I also shout discordian slogans at
passing drunks and conspiricy theorize endlessly, if that
counts.
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 16, 1999 07:55 PM
I talk to people as if they are real, and some of them are, and some
them could become so, and some have already died.
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Chip Myrmidon |
posted November 17, 1999 12:34 AM
Some kids in my study hall were misbehaving, so I gave them some
Hakim Bey to read. I've also been bringing comics and gaming books
into school to show to my students (though I haven't quite worked
anyone up to Invisibles level yet).
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PornoHolocaust Operative |
posted November 17, 1999 03:34 AM
I slaughter innocent children with popular haircuts.
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 17, 1999 07:39 AM
Chip thats a fine example of treating people as real: you stepped
outside of your role, and pushed them into something that was
outside theirs.
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grant Operative |
posted November 17, 1999 02:05 PM
I second that emotion.
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snow_goon Initiate |
posted November 17, 1999 06:31 PM
I was not aware that popular haircuts were deadly
weapons.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 17, 1999 09:05 PM
Beware of Low-Flying Mullets.
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seeker Operative |
posted November 17, 1999 09:30 PM
My mission is to have a mullet which I can strangle myself
with.
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PornoHolocaust Operative |
posted November 18, 1999 03:19 AM
snow_goon: Apparently you missed the 80s.
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 18, 1999 07:44 AM
Agitate, Educate, Disorganize
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70sman Operative |
posted November 18, 1999 12:43 PM
in that order?
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Johnny not-on-the-spot Operative |
posted November 18, 1999 04:36 PM
I'm seeing how far I can abuse the system without anyone knowing, or
even caring.
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Cochese Operative |
posted November 18, 1999 07:19 PM
I was well up for putting loads of odd signs in roundabouts on
Saturday night, but then I got home and the beer suddenly decided it
was tired and stopped making me do things. File that one away for
later on, I think.
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PATricky Operative |
posted November 19, 1999 03:37 AM
Hard to say what I "DO" as a planned out sort of thing.
nearly every conversation is an opportunity but that always
depends on the conversation & those conversing.
I'm buying 2 issues of the invisibles just so I could lend a copy
out . . .
alot of people I'm around seem to be of that sort of mental bend
with only details to differ on.
Oh and then there's my own comic strip & the subliminal stuff
I sneak into the Magazine I design for . . .
Still I'm somewhat known for the being somewhat weird among the
weird & that's been quite fun.
PATricky AKA PATrippy also 
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PATricky Operative |
posted November 19, 1999 03:38 AM
Oh . . .
and I'm all for an organised front of some sort!
C'mon, let's change the worlds you people !!!
anything less isn't worth the effort
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dr
a.s.k. Initiate |
posted November 19, 1999 07:51 PM
I throw great parties.
And masturbate a lot -- I mean charge sigils a lot!
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rakehell Initiate |
posted November 20, 1999 04:03 PM
I don't wantt o bring anyone down, but what's the point of the
Invisibles if we don't do anything.
When I met Grant, he was really pushing the idea of the
Invisibles as a catalyst to get people up off their couch and out
doing something. I'm not sure if his vision quite matches reality.
It's one thing to wonder which 70s TV show is represented in
panel 3 of issue 12 V3, and quite another to understand it as a
whole and try to go out and perpetrate some 'ontological terrorism'
of your own.
We're looking at some bad times ahead for us and the whole
planet. Fossil fuels predicted to run out in the next 25-30 years.
Seven billion people on this ball. Somebody has to do something,
someone has to act as an alarm clock.
If not us, then who?
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 20, 1999 05:20 PM
If we need to have each others agreement before we commit ourselves
we have already lost.
If we limit ourselves to minor discordian acts, such as playing
with traffic signs W H A L.
If we plan real subversion on a public forum W H A L.
This is a place to thrash out an ideology that we can commit to,
and maybe an agenda of what can be opposed successfully.
I think we are on the way.
[This message has been edited by ianjones (edited November 20,
1999).]
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IŅaki Initiate |
posted November 20, 1999 07:51 PM
I have a group of music when I put invisible ideas. I will let you
Know when we can record something, altough we sing in Spanish I
believe you could get the main Ideas.
Count me on to organise a Latin cell, or something like that. We
have to change the world, or at least have fun trying to make
it.
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Loz Operative |
posted November 21, 1999 08:29 AM
Just because I may not be doing much at the moment doesn't mean I'm
betraying some mystical set of 'Invisibles principles'. The one
thing reading the comic each month has brought home to me is how
little I know, not just in terms of weird things like the Principia
Discordia and The Law of Fives, but in the more mundane areas such
as recent history and science. If I were to try anything in my
current state of ignorance I would, if I was lucky, end up in a
similar situation to Dane in the first issue, stuck in some
rehabilitation centre or, more likely as I'm 23, in prison. At the
moment I settle for just trying to turn on friends and acquantences
to The Invisibles and hoping they'll enjoy it as I do. Besides,
we've still got 12 years and a month, what's the rush?
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rakehell Initiate |
posted November 21, 1999 12:11 PM
I would just hate for us to turn around one day and say: "What the
hell happened? We were so onto it, we were so into it, we were so
there. Why are we standing atop a smoking ruin?"
I feel like it's almost my duty to do something. There are people
who are going to prison or getting killed for their beliefs and we
sit in front of our computers and buy our comics somehow thinking
it's enough. I'm making generalisations which are probably untrue,
but...
Blind people learn how to drive, one armed people scale
mountains, teenagers win Nobel prizes, I can't get out of bed in the
morning.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 21, 1999 02:18 PM
That last bit about no-legged people climbing mountains (or
whatever) reminds me of an interview I once read with Pat Mills
(writer of not-very-good comics) on the subject of his time with
British girls' comic, Bunty. He described the types of story girls
seemed to like including 'disability heroines' who had courageously
overcome a physical obstacle to develop near-superhuman abilities in
their field. Mills and another writer vied to come up with the most
absurd character based on this theme, and I believe 'Sue - Blind
Tennis Player' was actually published for a few issues. Probably the
funniest thing Pat Mills has ever done.
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Twig the Wonder Kid Operative |
posted November 21, 1999 02:39 PM
Don't be so dismissive of Pat Mills. I used to love Nemesis the
Warlock in 2000AD.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 21, 1999 03:29 PM
Mmm, I suppose it was interesting at first. Mills certainly knows
how to stripmine an idea to the bedrock...
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IŅaki Initiate |
posted November 21, 1999 04:17 PM
Was Pat Mills the Guy of Marshall Law? I like that series. It was
really Funny
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PATricky Operative |
posted November 23, 1999 01:01 AM
STORIES STROIES STORIES!!!
if the world IS made of words what we all seem to have in
abundance is the gift of comunication.
We have to retell the story of our reality!
And continue to do so untill there are sooooo many layers &
permutations that upon casual inspection there can be nothing but
that story.
Has anyone heard of the 100th monkey theory?
In short (and this is probably a perfect exapmle of a story told
so many times it's reached mythic proportions) the theory suggests
that if a critical number of a given species reaches a new
understanding then that understanding will arise into the species as
a whole, with out the need of some form of information transfer.
With each person that begins thinking "invisibly" the whole of
human nature is just a bit closer to having Invisible Thinking as a
normal trait.
Beyond that . . . throwing parties is both alot o fun and a lot o
work.
still, it's always been spectacular experiences 
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 23, 1999 01:06 AM
Hmmm, isn't that the old Dream of 1000 Cats? And is it just me or is
that issue of Sandman hugely overrated?
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number nun Operative |
posted November 23, 1999 05:11 AM
What, am i suppossed to be like " yeah i was awfully subversive
today, I yelled positive messeges to old fuckers as my 1967 lime
green volvo p1800 drove slowly past them" or "I slipped some school
kids some acid on their way to school so they could be free, man!"
or any of that shite."Hey guys, I'm wild, I'm bringing down the man
from with in the system!" First of all, if i was doing something
invisibleish I wouldn't tell you people, because it's really none of
your business, and also, that would be visible wouldn't it. Remember
the wise words about the anarchist hero turning rebellion into
consumer commodity.DON'T SMOKE WEED! BE FREE! SMOKE WEED! BE
FREE!
[This message has been edited by number nun (edited November 23,
1999).]
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 23, 1999 09:16 AM
Just relax, number nun, breathe deeply... The Sense-of-Humour nurse
will be here in no time, with your implant.
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 23, 1999 09:29 AM
Dream of a 1000 cats was the entry point for my daughter at 7 to the
Sandman. It was great to help share the inversion of it all. I'm not
sure its a grown up story tho'
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted November 23, 1999 09:48 AM
I can't really understand why it's been so critically acclaimed; it
looks to me like a cute story he knocked up in a weekend.
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ianjones Myrmidon |
posted November 23, 1999 01:21 PM
My implicate answer to that was because the critics are sensitive
literate seven year olds.
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grant Operative |
posted November 23, 1999 01:43 PM
I liked that story immensely (despite the fact that I instinctively
root for dogs against cats) probably precisely because it had that
seven-year-old feeling without being crass or dumb. Unlike most
comics (even one-shots), it's very self-contained. Cute and scary --
a difficult balance. Reminds me of Hans Christian Andersen.... Well,
sort of. I don't know about art but I know what I
like.
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