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Topic: Earth 2 |
Zephir
Myrmidon |
posted December 07, 1999 01:44 AM
  
Hey! I've got in on pretty good authority that JLA:EARTH 2 is
coming out THIS WEEK! So run, don't crawl to your store and camp out
right RIGHT now!
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 06:47 AM
b&w advances available by hitting the "B&W ADVANCES BUTTON"
at dccomics.com.
m.
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panacynic
Initiate |
posted December 07, 1999 11:00 PM
It should be out this week, which was a bit of a shock to me and my
wallet. So all you lucky Amerikans should almost certainly be able
to get hold of it tomorrow. Now all I need is to justify the
expense. 'It's Christmas', that'll do.
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 12:07 AM
where are you, panacynic?
I have no idea how much this is going to punish my wallet, but
new comics come in tomorrow so get ready for the big ouch.
Our pitiful australian dollars are no match for the might of the
greenback.
m.
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Imp0zz!bL
Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 02:25 AM
Yeah, maybe, but at least we're able to condense our dollar to a
coin!
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 05:23 AM
I think the condensing is possible because there's less money in our
dollars...
m.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 02:24 AM
I bought it and read it today. It cost $24.95 in U.S. bucks.
I don't want to spoil it for ya. I just finished it and need to
read it again but it is very fun. It has a good sense of humore but
it is kind of surprising. The Crime Syndicate are awesome. Instead
of being the boring reverse JLA they come of more like the "Vertigo
JLA". Curse words and all. Very different from the JLA comic book.
Definetly aimed at a more mature audience. Well, I'm off to read it
again.
Great Grant story and dialog.
Wonderful Frank Quitely
art.
Go buy it.
Oh one more thing, I was slightly dissapointed that a few empty
dialog balloons went unoticed by the editor. Seems like they always
make a few mistakes on the more expensive items.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 01:31 PM
I finished reading it the second time and it is even more enjoyable.
Is it GM's best JLA story, probably not but it is different. I just
love his Crime Syndicate. Okay, I'll stop before I ruin it for
everyone else.
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Dr.
Zum
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 06:01 PM
Go ahead and spill the beans...I haven't bought a "superhero" comic
since GM's Doom Patrol ended. DrZ
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Ganesha
Myrmidon |
posted December 09, 1999 07:45 PM
No, don't. It doesn't hit the UK until next week.
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Geist
Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 11:30 PM
Must be kiddin' Ganesha!
Else look for another store!
I saw it
in the shelves today, in Germany!
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panacynic
Initiate |
posted December 09, 1999 11:33 PM
Sodding bollocks, I was really looking forward to it as well, but
that always seems to be the way when I'm really looking forward to
comics lately, Planetary #6, the last part of the wonderful
Authority Sliding Albion arc, oh and Strange Kiss today as well.
Ellis Schmellis I'm from the UK
by the way Matsya, as I'm sure you've guessed by my little
seethe.
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Zephir
Myrmidon |
posted December 10, 1999 01:37 AM
That empty balloon at the beginning didn't seem a mistake, it seemed
like they were just saying " " you know? There is one part where
Flash says "enery" instead of "energy" but that's the only mistake I
saw. Otherwise, yes. Oh man oh man, getting this book coincided with
my purging of an emotional implant that has been digging into my
life for the last few months, and well, I'm happy now. Yay. It's all
about the Crime Syndicate's Panopticon headquarters on the moon, and
all the little analagous trophies, and... well, okay, I'm shutting
up.
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 01:49 AM
hm. There are spoilers here, but I guess clever people wouldn't come
here unless they read it. So... be warned.
I particularly enjoyed the Miss Tessmacher reference.
As for the overall story, did anyone get the impression that this
was yet again a comment from grant about comic characters knowing
that they live in a comicbook world? I mean that whole "on our earth
everything bad happens and on your earth everything good happens"
seems like metaknowledge to me.
m.
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Zephir
Myrmidon |
posted December 11, 1999 06:47 AM
Well, the fact that "the JLA always win" was established as general
knowledge back in the Key issues, in the american dream tpb..
uhh, I'm guessing... 8 and 9? Then Rock of ageas was all post that,
with the team trying to stop itself from winning. All it's missing
is the characters stopping like king mob for a panel and saying
"I've been waiting my whole life to say something like that." But
these guys do it all the time, they are the Justice League, they
never loose. That's just the way the world works.
They always have comics in the comic book universes, but I always
wonder what they'd be like, as no one is supposed to know secret
identites, they must be pretty dull. Well, I guess JLA would still
be worth a read, but otehrwise, what are the fans in the comic book
usiverses reading, and what do they think about it?
All that being said, I can't wait to see what Animal Man's
(someone who has figured it out, sorta) influence on the JLA will
be, if those last few issues ever show up.
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 01:31 PM
Surely the kids in metahuman realities read pirate comics?
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 05:42 PM
I just posted a review of Earth 2 on my website at http://www.homestead.com/wildnewangels/heavenly_thunder_comics.html
. There are also some other (more coherent) reviews from a few other
nexus members you will recognize.
I also absolutely loved the closte scene with Superwoman and
Jimmy Olsen. Earth 2 is a very kinky book. I loved it. I just want
to keep reading it over and over. I love superheroes but I wish they
could all be as naughty as the Crime Syndicate. 
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Sitruc
Initiate |
posted December 14, 1999 06:11 AM
As an entity yet to read Earth 2 (and not likely to until it comes
out in tpb), I'm curious:
How did Frank Quitely's art look in a more, if you will,
'straight' setting? I'm only really familiar with him from Flex
Mentallo. There, I thought it worked exceedingly well in the
satirical environment that the series existed in.
This leads to the question, how do people feel about the fact
that he's been pegged as the artist for the Invisibles' final
chapter?
Although I love what I've seen of his, I'm concerned about
whether his style will mesh with the mood of the final issue. So
far, Volume Three has been a dark, sombre affair. Of course, if
Grant decides to take things over the top to end things (which is a
legitimate possibility), it could work.
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 14, 1999 06:31 AM
I'm not sure if Frank's drawing the entirety of issue 1. I've seen a
mock-up of the cover and, though they're left blank, there are about
five or six spaces in the credits column, implying that there will
be more than just Morrison and Quitely.
And Quitely's work on Earth 2 is flooring. Makes me want to get
drawing. I can't wait until he starts on The Authority...
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Sitruc
Initiate |
posted December 14, 1999 07:39 AM
I could be wrong about the division of labour on issue one.
I do believe I received my info from the often reliable Bomb.
However, so many things in this Invisible world are subject to
change.
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Zephir
Myrmidon |
posted December 14, 1999 10:19 PM
It's all in the wrinkles and the hair, somehow, Frank makes them
look less and less like pencil lines, and more and more real. I
always think people dressed in super suits (real people, now) always
look stupid, because real clothes just can't get that look that
characters in comics seem to have. Frank has this way of making it
look both real, and not stupid. Man, I want to be him when I grow
up.
I don't think there'll be any problems with Frank's work on
invis, except that there hasn't been any yet. I'm more concerned
about what his Authority stuff will look like, as Wild Storm is VERY
stylized, while Grant seems to really get off on the changing look
from book to book.
And dark? And gloomy? I've thought the last volume has been the
most cartoonish of the lot. All those silly looks on George's face
in the first couple issues, man.
So... are there b&w previews of future invis issues on
dccomics.com somewhere? What's the scoop?
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 14, 1999 10:37 PM
Frank is amazing. I've been trying to figure out how he makes people
look so real with just pencil and ink. It must be magic. He draws a
wicked Superman.
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 14, 1999 10:56 PM
No, there aren't advance copies available for public perusal; I'm
doing some work on issue 2 and I was sent some advance material so I
knew what was going on. Membership has its privileges...
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 14, 1999 11:25 PM
Pardon?
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 02:46 AM
Was that "pardon" directed at me?
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Sitruc
Initiate |
posted December 15, 1999 06:55 AM
Although I'll agree that Volume 3 has come across as a bit
'cartoony' in the art department, I gotta stand by my statement that
it has been dark and moody.
Lot's of interior (interrogation 'n' deprogrammin') scenes with
the lights turned out, death, ghosts, betrayal, grave robbing...
Even the colours have been quite muted - lots of browns and greys
IIRC.
However, I suppose none of this has much to do with the Earth 2,
does it? So off topic so quickly. Sorry.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 01:54 PM
You guys have got to read Earth 2 soon so you can tell me what you
thought of the closet scene with Lois and Jimmy? Damn that book is
funny.
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 09:15 PM
BAJ: Sorry for being rude. Yeah, "Pardon?" as in "What work are you
doing on The Invisibles?"
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 10:04 PM
I'm drawing a couple of pages (pencils & inks) in Vol. 3 #2.
Working on them today, in fact.
This is, I suppose, my "big break" in comics (though I have done
a story in Flinch that has yet to see print, and some upcoming
Superman stuff), and it would be very much appreciated if, upon
publication of "my" Invisibles issue, you would all write to Vertigo
and tell them how much I deserve a regular series.
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Citizen Smith
Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 11:22 PM
Neat.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 16, 1999 01:49 PM
Cool Broad Arrow Jack! Good luck with it. Assuming I know
your name by the time it comes out, I'll send your praises to the DC
editors. I'm always emailing those poor guys anyway.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 16, 1999 01:53 PM
Oh what Superman stuff should I be looking for BAJ. I pick up the
occasional Superman issue.
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 16, 1999 04:05 PM
Superman Adventures (I have an animation background) #41 is a
collection of various artists contributing single-page stories, in
which I have two pages. It should be on sale Jan. 12.
After that
I have drawn a couple of full-length Superman Adv. books, but I have
no idea when they will be published. Same goes for my Flinch story,
which will hopefully be on store shelves before that book is
inevitably cancelled.
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JackFrost
Operative |
posted December 16, 1999 06:02 PM
Does anyone else just love the blurb on the back cover? I love the
way it perfectly mirrors what would be said about the JLA, if it
were their book.
By the by, since this is JLA-related, does anyone know exactly
how long 'World War III' is? Originally it was supposed to be 5
issues, then the DC website says there are 6 parts, then in the
February solicitation it says it's 7 parts! Anybody know the real
number?
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 16, 1999 10:16 PM
Did anyone else laugh their ass off when they readl GM's bio on the
back inside cover fold?
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matsya
Operative |
posted December 17, 1999 12:07 AM
BAJ - that superman adventures, is that the one that Jim Woodring
draws a page of? the one co-ordinated by Evan Dorkin?
lovely. thought I'd missed it.
m.
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Broad Arrow Jack
Operative |
posted December 17, 1999 03:06 AM
I don't think we're talking about the same thing; all of the shorts
are written by Mark Millar.
However, what you've just described
sounds like something my pal Jay Stephens was talking about: a giant
Bat-Mite/Mr. Mxyzptlk extravaganza written by Evan Dorkin.
Apparently the idea is that Bat-Mite and Mr. M travel through
various different comic book "realities," each drawn by a different
artist; there's a Dark Knight sequence drawn by Miller and Janson
with colours by Lynn Varley, a Kingdom Come segment painted by Alex
Ross, a C.C. Beck-style Captain Marvel segment drawn by Jaime
Hernandez, a Batman: The Animated Series sequence drawn in
STORYBOARD FORMAT by series producer Glen Murakami, and from what I
gather many, many others, probably including Jim Woodring. Jay is
tackling the Alex Toth SuperFriends bit, because he was the only one
brave enough.
This sounds like the comic of the
decade.
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Zephir
Myrmidon |
posted December 17, 1999 08:31 AM
Well, yeah. 5 parts on the issues, but I read that "of 7" thing too.
I figure hell, doesn't matter really. Maybe, if there's any change,
we'll find out next week when the ish comes out, right?
Speaking of how I can make this into the Offtopiclith, anyone
read the new Promethea? Total heaven and hell is right where you
make it type stuff, not to mention the Ellis Change or Die
Stormwatch trade, it's all over invisibles stuff. I'm sorry, my
minds a little off, just got back from "The Acid house," new-ish
Irvine Welsh movie, trippy sexy spooky gross.
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Sandfarmer
Operative |
posted December 17, 1999 02:23 PM
Good call on Promethea, Zephir. I'm still not sure what to make of
that book but it has been fun so far.
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grant
Operative |
posted December 17, 1999 02:25 PM
Is that Evan Dorkin the Milk and Cheese man?
And Jim Woodring? One of my coworkers introduced me to "Jim" (the
comic) after I brought in a Flinch with a story by him.
He's messed up in the right direction.
- gab
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