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Topic: blinkers not included...
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Gentleman Assassin Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 04:58 PM
http://www.dallascursefreetv.com/
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Twig the Wonder Kid Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 07:24 PM
Fuck that for a bunch of soldiers
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Citizen Smith Operative |
posted December 05, 1999 07:31 PM
Wouldn't sign up for that steaming pile of piss-bollocking shite if
it was the only fucking way to watch cunting telly ever
a-knob-sucking-gain.
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70sman Operative |
posted December 06, 1999 11:00 AM
... as Lord Byron wittily remarked over breakfast.
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 12:25 AM
I just sent their sales staff the following email:
What a lovely idea! Now I won't have to put up with all that
annoying and value-threatening content that plagued my life
before. Is there any way, however, that you could build a set
that would automatically cover any offensive visual content
with, say, a large blue dot? Perhaps it could print a bible
verse over any nudity, or replace any violent content with images
of our Lord giving a blessing. How wonderful if we could live in
a world where, every time one of those horrible policemen on the
television goes to shoot someone we could see, instead, the smiling
face of our Lord. Think of all the souls that could be saved. Is
there any chance of doing the same for violent and or sexually
explicit computer games? My young son is very interested in
playing Doom, which worries me. Perhaps if he would have to look
into Jesus' eyes every time he pulled the trigger he would think
twice about taking guns to school!
Hopefully someone there will be bright enough to get the
point.
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PornoHolocaust Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 03:03 PM
Is "Dallas Curse" like herpes? And why is it that when I go into the
"cool sites" section I get a message from gawd? Where are the links?
Like gawd has anything new to say.
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Geist Operative |
posted December 07, 1999 11:54 PM
I'd like to see their balance. Sure, those fuckers are earning a
lot with that, or don't they? Is there still hope??? Har,Har I
think I'm gonna visit them again
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Mystery Gypt Initiate |
posted December 08, 1999 03:16 AM
I told them i needed them to email me a list of exactly all the
words that they filter out before i by several of them. heh. hope
they enjoy typing that out for me.
and i put my name down as jesse custer, from Lord's Light
LLC.
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70sman Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 08:54 AM
My god , that sucks. Shall we send them obscene anticensorship
emails from now till eternity?
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grant Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 03:14 PM
Hell, i think it's great. The more they censor themselves, the
less somebody else has to do it.
Fascinating technology too.
I wonder if it could be applied in some other, more artistic
way...
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Mystery Gypt Initiate |
posted December 08, 1999 06:12 PM
they replied saying they it wsa too embarrassing to list the words,
but that they filters out over 100 words "from the f word on down."
i wonder if that includes "communist"
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Citizen Smith Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 06:23 PM
100 swearwords?!? Fantastic. Now there's a drinking game for a
Friday night. So, how many do YOU know?
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 07:06 PM
Dear Mr. Naraoia,
Wouldn't it be a better world if they would end all the violence
and sexuality on TV? I don't think that will happen though unless
this country experiences a massive revival. The way CFTV works is
that it reads the close-captioned signal that is embedded in the
signal of TV shows and movie rentals. When a curse word is
detected, it automatically mutes the volume and substitutes a
profanity free phrase. We would like to have the opportunity to
edit out violence and sexuality, but Hollywood would have
to embed a signal for our device to pick up and edit at the
appropriate time. It may take a while to convince them to do that
however. Until then, I recommend you be careful of rated PG-13
and R movies that tend to cater to these types of activities. If
we can be of further help, please don't hesitate to contact us
via email or call 504-347-8766. Thank you and may God bless your
family richly.
Fritz J. Brown CFTV
I dunno... do you think Fritz realizes what we're trying to do
yet? Maybe we need to kick it up a notch...
And as for whether we need to keep sending them anti-censorship
emails... why not? They've chosen to make a public issue out of this
by selling their boxes. If someone came on the Nexus and suggested
this device was a good idea, wouldn't we argue with them? I enjoy my
little detournment better than getting in a screaming match with
born-again Xians, but if I thought that would make a difference I'd
do that, too.
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Citizen Smith Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 07:21 PM
Surely this is a piss-take.
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Johnny7 Operative |
posted December 08, 1999 08:13 PM
I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with
what these people are doing. They are presenting people with a
CHOICE. They are not forcing their product down your throats, or
attempting to legislate it into common use (a la the V-Chip). They
aren't telling me what I can or cannot watch. This is censorship on
the level of a SurfWatch or Net Nanny filter.
(That being said, I do have a problem with the fact they're
profiting off of people's stupidity -- it's much cheaper to turn off
the television than it is to buy one of these bloody filters.)
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted December 08, 1999 08:47 PM
I can't believe they're actually using the classic Clark Gable line
to SELL people the concept as a 'good thing'; I'd have thought you
could hardly get a more in-context 'curse' than that innocent little
'damn'.
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Jack Fear Myrmidon |
posted December 08, 1999 10:24 PM
Have you ever watched "Gone With the Wind"? Christ,it's got
alcoholism, rape, miscegenation, marriages of convenience,
abortion... Admittedly, all of these themes are implicit, handled by
dialogue that dances around what it's really saying. But it's
still just a horrible, headfucking movie, by today's PC standards.
And the worst thing these yahoos have to say about it is that
Clark Gable uses the D-word? Talk about not being able to see the
forest for the trees.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted December 08, 1999 11:54 PM
Yeah, it's possibly my favourite film ever - but only because I
secretly want to go visiting men in prison wearing a dress I made
from my own curtains...
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 09, 1999 07:19 PM
Johnny7: I agree with you about giving people choices. I also want
to mess with this guy's head. Why? Because I think in the long run
he's serving the interests of those who want to take choices away.
Yeah, okay, filtering out curse words is a pretty tame attack on
freedom but if you listen to this guy closely enough you find out
what he really wants: a state religion (revealed Christianity), a
world without violent or sexual content, kids raised on a diet of
inoffensive, Christ-centered fluff, and so on. Will he get it? It's
doubtful--but only because people like us won't let it happen. I
don't want to tell him he can't sell his boxes--I just want him to
think about where he's actually headed. If he does and still holds
to his vision, well, more power to him. If he's never confronted by
the real world, however, he and his Radical Right buddies will think
we're all on their side.
BTW, when I saw the mutilated GWTW quote I thought it had to be a
joke, too--but if so it's a pretty involved one and so I, for one,
don't mind going along for the ride.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted December 09, 1999 07:22 PM
Has the war started already?
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Fairweather Nihilist Initiate |
posted December 09, 1999 10:41 PM
i'm going to market my own version, which is designed so that words
such as 'christian', 'caring', 'family' and 'children' are replaced
with words like 'cluster-fuck' and 'fascists' also, all bland
programmes like songs of praise and blind date will by footage of
frontal lobotomies.
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70sman Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 08:43 AM
What a VERY cool name. And a VERY cool idea. Send one to my house
posthaste , Fairweather Nihilist!
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grant Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 03:56 PM
I still gotta stand up for these people. First, they're doing it
for themselves and no one else. God bless 'em. In the end, everyone
gets what they want.
Second, it seems like it'd be easy to replace dirty words with
other words... just like Robert Anton Wilson did in Schrodinger's
Cat. As in, let me put my Rehnquist between your Abzug
cheeks. See the potential?
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 10, 1999 07:42 PM
Grant: can't remember the details, but i seem to remember some AIDS
activists doing just that a couple years back. Still, I love the
idea Fairweather Nihilist came up with--very Invisible TV.
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Twig the Wonder Kid Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 08:49 AM
By censoring certain words they are being granted greater power.
'Swear' words are not in themselves intrinsically offensive, they
are only offensive to those who allow themselves to be offended by
them. By being offended these words are given power, and by giving
them power their usage tends to increase.
Take for example the word 'fuck'. It cannot be seen as offensive
in itself as it is only four letters inoffensive in their own right.
It cannot be seen as offensive in what it signifies because other
words signify the same thing - 'shag', screw' etc.. and are
perfectly acceptable in polite conversation. (although the
perversity of making the sexual act in any way taboo within a
society is another matter). The only reason it is offensive is
because of its power to offend.
By censoring the word 'fuck' its power increases. By increasing
its power its usage increases. Everyone in communication tries, when
making a point, to infuse their sentences with power. This can be
done through inventive use of language, be it structure, neologisms
or poetry. Those without the language skills can add a cheap punch
to an arguement by adding a word that carries the power to offend,
such as 'fuck'.
They are just escalating what they want to eradicate.
Dumb fucks.
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it Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 01:42 PM
I'd like one that blocked out the adverts. Now there's offensive for
you.
New vcrs have the ability to do that on playback. And they're
going to be DIRT CHEAP when dvd gets the big big push.
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Citizen Smith Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 02:39 PM
I agree with King Mob in vol 3 issue 12 - the adverts are the only
things worth watching on telly at the moment. At least, I think
that's what he said, without going back to check.
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 11, 1999 06:49 PM
As a former communication student, I can tell you that they spend
more making a thirty-second ad then they do a twenty-one minute
sitcom. They take longer to make, too. I had an art teacher once who
said that advertisements were the last viable art form. Don't know
if I totally agree, but I think she was on to something. Ads play
with you in a way programs never dare. Watch them and you're
watching the cultural soul... especially in these days when we not
only advertise ourselves, but sell our internal lives as
well.
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Citizen Smith Operative |
posted December 12, 1999 01:44 AM
How do Do It All do it? What THEY do it for, won't somebody tell? As
long as THEY do it, like Do It All Do It, don't you know, I'll be
doing it as well. I rest my case.
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Naraoia Operative |
posted December 12, 1999 08:23 PM
My current favorite ad is for Subway--an otherwise totally
forgettable Y2K thing except for the last image, which is a parody
of the last supper with Bugs Bunny in the Christ position. They got
away with it! This is Invisible television!
Oh, and did anyone else notice that Cadillacs now come with
infrared? How long before they come armor-plated, too?
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Fairweather Nihilist Initiate |
posted December 12, 1999 10:41 PM
What about just not mentioning certain ****s? By omitting some
perfectly ****** ****s, we can make **** seem taboo. then we **** a
whole new *** ** ***** ** **** ****. (Non censored version
available on request.)
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted December 13, 1999 12:22 AM
Or, like the FISHing Channel 4 chatroom, we could add a SAVIOUR of a
swearing filter which stops any old FISHing SWEETIE from PLAYing his
LOLLIPOP to exhaustion by substituting innocuous CHAMOISes of words
for the real ones. You can also make up your own CAPTAINBIRDSEYEs
and really FISH with people's GOPHERs.
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Loz Operative |
posted December 15, 1999 07:43 PM
As Lenny Bruce said, "If you can't say fuck, you can't say fuck the
Government!" (Not strictly relevent but it had to be said...)
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Invisible_al Initiate |
posted December 23, 1999 12:48 AM
Well it's this whole language thing again isn't it. It's words we
invented that we now consider shouldn't be said. It's bizarre. I
mean if you were to shout the word Cunt very loudly in Tibet the
chances of anyone finding it obscene would be minimal. Well amoung
people who can't speak english. Swearwords were invented by
people so they could use them. I think my point is why censor,
people will just come up with better ways to express
themselves. I'll just finish with Dave Sim, of Cerbus fame's
reaction to censorship. "cunty cunt cunt cunty cunty cunt cunt
cunty cunt cunt." The Bug
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Broad Arrow Jack Operative |
posted December 23, 1999 02:14 AM
I came in on this a bit late, but MY letter ran as follows:
How relieved I am to see that someone is trying to shield me and
my beloved family from the horrors of the outside world. Now, at
long last, I can be sure that my precious children will never have
their tender pink eardrums viciously raped by the marauding
syllables of the Devil's vocabulary. But why stop at mere words? For
too long my Christian household has been invaded by degrading images
of sickening filth. I certainly don't want to expose my children to
anything that could inspire them to think or form ideas in their
brains, as it would be far too difficult to sit down and discuss
anything with them, since my own value system is based entirely on
specious dogma. I would far rather that I could safely steer them
through a filtered reality composed of religious propaganda, so that
they can develop into another homogeneous servant of Jesus that can
carry on your noble work to eradicate anything that doesn't conform
to our belief system. God bless.
It's a bit much, but I can't wait for the reply. 
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted December 23, 1999 08:29 AM
I suspect they'll weigh up your letter and decide, on balance, that
it's encouraging...
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