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Topic: My return to Invisibleness
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Johnny7 Operative |
posted October 04, 1999 07:24 PM
Somewhere in the last few months, I lost that which made me unique.
The problems of daily life and routine succeeded in dragging me down
from where I had been, and I became just another drone, punching a
timeclock every morning, Monday to Friday. I hated my job, I stopped
going to the gym, stopped caring about myself. I became another
blank, brutalized face in front of the television.
I became Visible.
I used to care about Reality. I used to think I had it all
understoodÖ so what happened? What caused me to stop caring? Why did
I give up? It was probably the result of a number of factors, all of
them horribly mundane. It was the mundane that finally dragged me
back down. Despite the efforts of my (very recently ex-) girlfriend,
I allowed my cultural conditioning to take over. Five years of
fighting my conditioning, and being fairly damned successful at it
(I thought), and in the space of six months everything changed back
and I was once again the spotty little 18 year-old, too scared of
the world to attempt to live in it.
And now it has cost me the only thing I ever truly cared about.
More than that, it has cost me my Self.
I need to feel like I once did, when I thought I had understood
something fundamental about the universe. I need to stop playing by
the rules of our culture, and go back to defining My Reality on My
Terms. I had forgotten that that was what I had truly believed ñ
that we are all God, and we are in control of our ultimate destiny ñ
there is no skeleton-faced hooded guy with a pair of dice playing
Games With Fate. I believe that in some form or another, I control
everything that happens to me, everything that affects me.
Everything.
Chaos theory, baby.
ìAs above, so below.î
ìItís like when Jacqui walked out. Like when my cats died.î
INVISIBLES continues to serve as my personal Bible (I say without a
trace of sarcasm and/or irony). I agree that there is a chance that
I could be projecting my life onto the comic, in the same sense as a
Rorschach blot, seeing what I want to see. But I canít accept that ñ
thereís only so much weirdshit coincidence you can have in your life
before you step back and ask yourself ëwhat the hell is going on?í
To my Personal Jacqui, thank you. Your departure was the shock I
needed to jar me out of this culturally-imposed Routine that I
embraced all too willingly. Now that I realize what had happened to
me, I can get back to being who I once was ñ someone that is trying
to understand the nature of Reality, and how best to deal with it,
to make it work for me.
I will be Invisible again.
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grant Operative |
posted October 04, 1999 08:37 PM
I hear you.
Does this make you a quadruple sleeper agent? (Back and forth,
back and forth...) -- gab
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 04, 1999 11:22 PM
'Course, in MY day, we used to paint our bedrooms black and lie
there in the darkness listening to 'Every Day Is Like
Sunday'.
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Tom Archon |
posted October 05, 1999 09:34 AM
THe line about the Invisibles becoming your own personal bible
really strikes a chord with me, while simultaneously smacking of
uber-sad-ness.
It's a funny one really. If someone said to me that I would find
my head full of postmodern, counter-cultural stuff from reading The
Invisibles, and that it would have such an impact on my life, well
frankly I would have laughed at them.
But somehow it is true. None of the characters have had as much
that I could react to as viscerally ("cool!") as Crazy Jane, Rebis
or Buddy, and yet I find the combinations of ideas so fascinating.
Oh I don't know.
I am going to write a post in a bit about how running one of
these boards is odd for the head and how responsibility deforms the
minds ability to wander creatively. This is probably not the time or
the place...
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70sman Operative |
posted October 05, 1999 05:19 PM
Ganesha: I still do! maybe theres something profoundly wrong with
me...nah.
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Vortex Nine Operative |
posted October 18, 1999 04:06 AM
I've been having the same problem right now, as some of you guys
have already seen in other post. Since I started reading The
Invisibles on Saturdays nights before going out I felt some strange
rush, the feeling I could do something. It 'clicked' so much to me.
I felt so much like Dane and so many veils were being opened. Not
even Shade and Sandman had to do with me, 'talked' to me as
Invisibles did. But I was 19 and then responsabilities came.
I've learned about Chaos Magick, had some good results but
didn't want to 'unlock' myself with it. Didn't have the guts to do
it yet. Guess I'll have to make my ritual to lose that fear
either... 'Invisibility' as we talk about here has come to me bit
by bit, as I can and that's not what it should be. We should unlock
ourselves from our fears in all possible areas in our lie. I can do
some stuff, politically speaking, to help this motherf*cker country
to get free of the people who still vampirize it. I want to help fix
the world but have to fix myself first. I can't live from art as I
wanted in Brasil so I can't feel as free as I needed. So in
order to survive we have to become slaves for a period of time. We
have to 'sell our time' as Burroughs said in 'Naked Lunch'. What
realy bugs me is that socially the maojority of the world's
population is enslaved, even the ones who consider themselves free
because they can pay their bills... Well I kinda diverged from
the topic, but to make it short: all we have to do is have
*courage*. Man, these days it is not easy....
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iao
adonai Operative |
posted October 18, 1999 05:27 AM
When has it ever been easy to practice courage in the face of
despair? Never the less, practice as much courage as you can muster,
Johnny 7. Let your pain be your familiar. That, and your courage,
will guide you along your way. May clarity attend
you, -IA
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Johnny7 Operative |
posted October 18, 1999 07:01 PM
It's been about two weeks since I started this thread, a good time
to see if I meant what I said, or if I was just deluding myself...
Vortex Nine, your fears echo mine. I don't want to be a slave of
society, but some whoring has to be done in order to survive.
There's no avoiding it -- and there's no reason to. The true meaning
of subversion is to affect change without anyone realizing that
you're doing it... the guy in a three-piece suit with a briefcase in
one hand and a lit Molotov in the other. I guess I can say that I
don't sell my time, but I'm perfectly willing to rent it. :-)
Courage is the key. I have gone through a monumental change in
outlook in the past two weeks, and others have noticed. I'm starting
to wonder if my "Personal Jacqui" wants to reconcile now that I'm
again the same guy she originally fell in love with. But is that all
I wanted to gain? If she and I get back together, does this mean I
fall back into the drone pattern?
Not a chance.
I'm Invisible again, and I'm not leaving... I finally feel like
I'm in control of my own personal Universe, and I like that feeling.
I'm not giving it up. Not again.
Iao: Pain sucks. I don't like it at all. But I'm not going to run
from it, not anymore.
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iao
adonai Operative |
posted October 20, 1999 01:44 AM
you'll get what you need, my friend. and, after a time, you will
feel the better of it.
[This message has been edited by iao adonai (edited October 20,
1999).]
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Vortex Nine Operative |
posted October 20, 1999 03:57 AM
It was really nice to share it with you, man. It is always great
when we get to find echo of our sorrow and get to make a way out of
it. I loved the image of the three-piece suit guy with a molotov on
one hand and a briefcase on the other.
I thought, and this is for you and iao adonai, that burning the
locks that avoid us from fully breathing the life inside our body
(and soul) was a somehow a fast and exploding process. Either was it
via Reichian therapy or Chaos Magick or by being an average better
person and a more courageous one.
But that takes time, the time we want it to take, the time our
guilt, shame and fear make longer in order to postpone (delay) the
full disclosure of a 'refreshed' self. You know, It is like what
Grant said about the Fantagraphics grimmy artists, sometimes I just
want to say to myself (and I do): 'get up, stop moaning and do what
you want with your life; live with it, pal'
In fact one friend or another have already told me that =). But,
you know, as things are when 'we can't find the time' (or don't want
to?), isn't it?
Sometimes I just want to jump from a tall building to see if I
have the balls to do it. Of course I'm kidding....
As for the girl, I don't know, what if you tried, without pushing
too hard, to let her know your true you, the Invisible one? Maybe
she's one too, maybe she likes it better. at least it would be
sincere from you. sorry if said something that had nothing to do
with it.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 20, 1999 10:20 AM
Ever-ee day is like Sun-daaay...every day is siil-ent and greeey...
Morrissey's all well and good but at some point you have to
change the disc.
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Boy
Electric Operative |
posted October 20, 1999 02:09 PM
Yeah, it was Morrissey for while there. But as my drunken friend
Golda said after a night of depressing self-analysis and a bottle of
100 proof Honey liquor... "At least your not a kid, hooked on
crack... in the ghetto."
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grant Operative |
posted October 20, 1999 08:23 PM
about this fear business --
i was browsing elsewhere on the bomb and ran into the section on
(dare I bring up the title?) the matrix.
the essay on gnosticism and shamanism and the matrix was pretty
good, i thought. i didn't buy all of the arguments (and it never
quite addresses the fact that gnosticism and shamanism are really
quite different traditions), but there's some good stuff about the
acceptance of fear as being the key moment in initiation (which
never ends, after all). there's also some interesting stuff about
necessary lies, comparing the oracle in the matrix to don juan in
carlos castaneda's books. worth checking out, even if you find
the movie loathsome.
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Vortex Nine Operative |
posted October 21, 1999 04:36 AM
Damn right you are, Grant and Ganesha. At least we can earn an
interne connection, isn't it?
Man, this Smiths song was great when we needed it. Imagine
reading 'Saint Swithin's Day" while listening to it. A suicide for
sure...
By the way, forgetting the joke about suicide for the ones
interested, I got "Everyday is like Sunday" on Mp3. I can post the
url to grab it if ya want. Will check the Matrix article later,
thanks.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 21, 1999 11:28 AM
Mmm, yes, Mozza and The Smiths were there throughout the long dark
teatime of the soul that was adolescence. My point was, there comes
a time to stop listening and decide to change the record.
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Jack Fear Myrmidon |
posted October 21, 1999 02:20 PM
"Being clever is all well and good, but sometimes a boy needs to go
out and meet girls."
--Flex Mentallo
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 21, 1999 03:09 PM
Absolutely. Or boys. Or trannies.
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Loz Operative |
posted October 21, 1999 07:23 PM
Sometimes all at once, but we can't all be Brian Molko...
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Boy
Electric Operative |
posted October 22, 1999 02:18 AM
But we can all imagine what it would be like....
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grant Operative |
posted October 22, 1999 02:49 AM
>Man, this Smiths song was great when we needed it. Imagine
reading 'Saint Swithin's Day" while listening to it. A suicide for
sure... <
You know, I've been obsessing on that song for about six weeks
now, ever since my live-in galpal (as the folks at work referred to
her) moved to Texas for her corporate job and left my sorry ass to
move to metropolitan Lake Worth, Florida.
Dubstar does a sweet little electro-twee version of it.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 22, 1999 09:04 AM
Oh, I really liked Dubstar's version!
'If the man you've grown to be's more Morrison than
Morrissey...'
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grant Operative |
posted October 23, 1999 05:00 AM
Mmmm. So do I.
I kinda like "stars" better, because the way they sing it, it's
even more melancholy.
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Loz Operative |
posted October 24, 1999 12:25 PM
And as the topic veers off into music, my favourite Dubstar lines
are;
It's the same old thing, I've said it from the start, living
together is something you do, and married is something you are.
And;
I will be your namesake, I will be your headache, I will be your
wits end, I will be your girlfriend.
Don't know why, but there's something in the sentiments that
appeals to me.
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 24, 1999 01:14 PM
Well, my favourite's the aforementioned Morrison/Morrissey line from
'The Day I See You Again' but I also like the cumbersome 'Because
I've been up here for a while I am starting to feel the monotony of
the tower-block' from the wonderful 'Not So Manic Now'.
I saw them live at T in the Park, three or four years ago now.
Ah, memories...
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grant Operative |
posted October 25, 1999 03:41 AM
I'd never even heard of them until I found a reference while surfing
a Billy Bragg fan site at work.
I got curious, and... chalk one convert up to CDNow's audio
samples.
What is it about simple pop tunes that makes them seem so
important?
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 25, 1999 03:47 AM
'The potency of cheap music' or however it goes...
I've always had a soft spot for slightly-too-sweet female voices
singing melancholy-tinged lyrics (see also St. Etienne, etc.)
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Johnny7 Operative |
posted October 25, 1999 02:32 PM
Dragging this thread back on topic before it gets sent off to the
Oratory (or whatever the music area is called)...
Vortex Nine: (did I mention 'cool name?') I can't take credit for
the three-piece suit image -- somebody over at The Tower put it in
my head. Definitely an image that stays with me, though.
I don't know if I can convince My Jacqui that the "true me" has
returned -- and I wouldn't blame her for doubting. As for her being
Invisible -- well, she still hasn't returned my copy of SAY YOU WANT
A REVOLUTION, so who knows?
And I threw my Morrisey CD out of window last week in a fit of
depressive anger...
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grant Operative |
posted October 25, 1999 08:25 PM
Geez, that almost sounds like something out of a Smiths song....
I recently realized I'd never make much of an anarchist because
the system has never made me suffer as much as girls have.
If that's at all relevant....
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Ganesha Myrmidon |
posted October 25, 1999 10:43 PM
Uh-oh. Here comes Cerebus now...
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grant Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 12:49 AM
Heh.
Well, unlike Viktor Davis, I kinda take the blame myself. I
mean, despite them being psychic vampires and all.
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PATricky Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 01:52 AM
Just thought I would toss my 2 sence here . . . Spare change any
one?
On the topic of the Smiths . . . I prettymuch tossed all of those
LP's when I started Raving . . . oddly (or maybe not) enough that
music just doesn't speak too me anymore. aside from a bit of
nostalga I find it too self indulgant.
Which brings me to the topic of service. As a result of much of
my Shamanic endevors (& I would like to pose the ?? of if
there's a difference between Shamanish & Kaos Magik) service to
the comunity has become paramount.
Now I don't really stop to help old ladies cross the street or
anything, but that all hings on the difinition of "comunity" there
is certainly a tight circle of people out here in the Bay area that
I consider "of my tribe" I guess in part as a result of us all
predominantly being transplants from other parts . . . still they
borrow plenty of copies of Invisibles, & we have thrown some
PHAT party/gatherings/pot-lucks in our time.
My girlfriend is now re-reading Vol-1 of INVISIBLE & she
jokenly claims to understand me much better as a result. So as a
personal bible goes, I tend to refer to it more as a user's manual
for reality in this day and age.
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levon Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 05:00 AM
that adds up to 14 cents
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look!NickWaddam! Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 05:20 PM
I'm curious: is the word "raving" used a great deal in America? The
word's fallen into disuse over here. Nobody really uses it any more
(except for little kids who listen to Happy Hardcore, and live in
backwaters like Hastings). I'm not criticising Americans here, I'm
simply interested to note the differences between the scene in the
states and the scene over here. In the UK the word has become
synonymous with 15 yr olds, on 10 "E's" dancing around to DJ zebadee
and MC Magika. Clubbing (and big events) no longer emphasise the neo
hippy values that were common currency in the late eighties and
early nineties. Is it different over there? Some Trance Heads
probably think their scene keeps the fire burning, but, to be
honest, "Return to the Source" etc remind me of an old hippy who
refuses to come down and live in the nineties. Embarrassing.
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levon Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 06:52 PM
Yeah, they still call them raves over here. Admittedly, I have never
even been to a whatever-you-call-it because they are so expensive
here and the ones my friends go to always seem to be a hundred miles
away. I don't know the situation over there. I do sometimes however
go to clubs, which are pretty much raves with a bar and security.
The scene is pretty much the meat market it's always been.
levon
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PATricky Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 09:46 PM
Not sure I would aggree with all of what you're saying Levon.
Out in Cali, most people who refer to "raves" match what you
where discribing LookNik,
in Present tence we would talk about a party, or thing . . .some
of them are HUGe, expencive and in very far out of the way places.
CANDYRAVE is the term we've come up with to best discribe the 15
year olds on twice as many Es or speed or whatever.
Amongst my "old-school" compariots the term Rave is used in a
definate nostalgic sence.
There still is ,I believe, a differeence between going ravin',
Clubing, and Dancing. The latter being truest to what the original
"Rave" was striving for: ie
1--"we going dancing tonight?"
2--"sure I heard about this rave going on."
3--" Naa, that shit's a CandyRave man, don't wan'na be hanging
with some 15 year olds!"
2--"I hear that."
1--" well SoNSo's throwing a party tonigh, heard it was out in
the boonies though."
3--"my car ain't makin' it"
2--"well I gotta work tomorrow, so why don't we go clubbing
instead?"
1--"you driving? 'Cause if we hit come Clubs i'm gonna drink"
2--"I'll drive your car"
3--"Cool, but I wan'na hit that afterhours then should be phat!"
1--"Cool, les' go"
2--"hold on, I'm not finished rolling this blunt"
. . . sigh . . . 
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PATricky Operative |
posted October 26, 1999 09:50 PM
Oh and sorry about the Studdddder.
My computer was freakin' out . . .
Um can I have 12 cents back?
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look!NickWaddam! Operative |
posted October 28, 1999 07:44 PM
The Uk scene has definitely moved towards clubbing again. Some are
meat markets, some aren't. Most have a really boring music policy:
(endless variations on the same musical theme). The general public
don't seem to enjoy much experimentation.
Oh, how I miss the Bluenote.
Bugger.
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Zephir Myrmidon |
posted October 29, 1999 06:09 AM
Pat, if you click on one of the three little icons at the top of
each message, you can edit/delete posts. I'd do it for you, but,
give a man a fish, right?
My girlfriend dumped me, I stopped losing weight. There wasn't
gonna be another invis issue out for a month and a half. I sprained
my ankle, I was smoking way too much (yes, it is possible) pot, and
taking a lot of motrin, which can cause low levels of sub-clinical
depression. I was actng like a dork, not shaving, walking weirdly
and saying all sorts of stupid, paranoid things to people who barely
knew I was probably kidding.
But I never stopped being invisible. You never stopped being
invisible. You never became invisible either. That's the kicker
right there. The kingdom in your mind, it's always been there. You
made it, remember?
I feel a lot better now, and have heard, over the last few
months, similar stories of depression, angst, and crappy weirdshit
happenstance bullshit mucking up the gearworks of everyday life. I
can only say that Jupiter is less visible, and I don't believe in
any of that crap, but I'm feeling at least 17 times better than I
was two monthes ago, or however long it's been.
Anyway, what were we on again? You guys better loose all this
lovey dovey pat on the I'll scratch your back tree hugging love
dodge bullshit. It's a harsh world, let's all get along, but pretend
we don't.
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grant Operative |
posted October 29, 1999 06:41 AM
Fuck you, punk.
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70sman Operative |
posted October 29, 1999 09:04 AM
<Anyway, what were we on again? You guys better loose all this
lovey dovey pat on the I'll scratch your back tree hugging love
dodge bullshit.>
It appears zephir has turned into Eric Cartman. Most
disturbing.
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