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look!NickWaddam!
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posted October 19, 1999 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
Have any of you checked out the Vertigo message boards recently? I never go there except to check the DC site for previews of future Invisibles (my link, from ages ago, when I used to hang around the Invisibles' message board that festers there, takes me directly to it), but today I thought I'd have a bit of a browse. And guess what I found?
A link to the previews of Dc's books available in January......
Yum.

The site contains a preview of Invisibles vol 3 #3. Turns out Invisible Kingdom is a three part arc, instead of four.
The rest of it?
Well go and have a look yourself.
And you can even believe it if you like......

It also previews "Kissing Mr Quimper", if anyone's interested.

[This message has been edited by look!NickWaddam! (edited October 19, 1999).]

The Scroll
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posted October 19, 1999 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Scroll   Click Here to Email The Scroll     Edit/Delete Message
Found it!

Obviously it sounds wonderful, and I'm hoping this time Previews is at least half-way close to accurate.

If "Invisible Kingdom" is only three issues, what's #1 gonna be? Must be the Secret of the Universe, as foretold in the Book of Grant.

The Scroll

Tom
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posted October 19, 1999 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message
Could you post the URL?

Tom
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posted October 19, 1999 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum90/HTML/000218.html

There we go.

Tom
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posted October 19, 1999 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a few bits of the preview information that is there. People should be warned that the information on previous issues has not always been particularly ... well ... accurate.

________

Things move faster with the coming of the new millennium in Grant Morrison's Invisibles. As 'Karmageddon' concludes, the series will feature a reunion of both Invisibles artists, including Phil Jiminez, Chris Weston, Jill Thompson and Philip Bond as well as the return of Ragged Robin and Boy before the final issue which features art by Morrison's Flex Mentallo and JLA Earth II partner, Frank Quietly.

The Invisibles Volume 3 #4

Grant Morrison/Steve Yeowell/Jill Thompson/John Ridgway/Steve Parkhouse/Philip Bond/Ashley Wood The countdown continues with Part 1 of the 3-part "The Invisible Kingdom," featuring contributions by nearly every artist ever associated with the series. And it's a reunion in more ways than one. Ragged Robin, former group leader and telepathic witch, returns from the future coveting secret information that could change the 21st century ó not to mention King Mob's psychedelic-Romeo lifestyle. Past contributors Steve Yeowell, Jill Thompson, John Ridgway, Steve Parkhouse, and Philip Bond are joined by Ashley Wood (Spawn, Dark Horse Presents) as the Hand of Glory reactivates, the Harliquinade reveals its true identity, and the Invisibles are put to the test as the Royal Monster gets closer to taking over the throne.

The Invisibles: Kissing Mister Quimper tp

The aftermath of the Invisibles' encounter with the Hand of Glory; the impact of Quimper's mind control over reluctant team leader Ragged Robin; and the return of the god/UFO from New Mexico are just some of the stylishly mind-bending tales collected in THE INVISIBLES: KISSING MISTER QUIMPER. This dizzying VERTIGO trade paperback finishes the reprinting of the issues leading up to the current 12-issue conclusion, collecting THE INVISIBLES Volume 2 #14-22, wrapped in a gorgeous new painted cover by Brian Bolland. Written by JLA's Grant Morrison, with ultra-fashionable art by Chris Weston, John Stokes, Ray Kryssing, Ivan Reis, and Mark Pennington, KISSING MISTER QUIMPER opens with the aftermath of the battle with the Archons, as King Mob's violent streak increases and other interpersonal relationships strain the fabric of the team. This leads into the events of "The Philadelphia Experiment," as the team looks for John-a-Dreams in the City of Brotherly Love; "Black Science II," in which the bizarre god/UFO from the New Mexico facility resurfaces; and Ragged Robin's return to the future on a world-saving mission that seems doomed to failure.

Johnny Starseed
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posted October 20, 1999 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny Starseed     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting the URL. I was getting lost in the endless sea of crap at the DC site.

Zephir
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posted October 20, 1999 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zephir   Click Here to Email Zephir     Edit/Delete Message
hey, there was also this:

The Invisibles Volume 3 #5
Written by Grant Morrison; art by Sean Phillips and Jay Stephens; painted
cover by Brian Bolland

The countdown to the year 2000 continues with the conclusion of the 4-part
"Karmageddon!" The psychedelic conclusion to the second storyarc of
Volume 3 reveals a traitor in the Invisibles...one who joins Forces with the
Cyphermen. Plus, King Mob has his final confrontation with his inner psyche
as Edith takes her last breath in India.

if, when you get to anotheruniverse, you type in november instead of january.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted October 20, 1999 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
I just got it very wrong. Of course, it's no 4, not 3. Stupid Waddam. Therefore, Invisible Kingdom's not three, but four issues long.

Don't blame me, I simply got a bit over excited and misread the preview.

Still, very stupid.......

[This message has been edited by look!NickWaddam! (edited October 20, 1999).]

Rev. Jesse
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posted October 21, 1999 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rev. Jesse   Click Here to Email Rev. Jesse     Edit/Delete Message
Are we sure that there will not be an issue zero?

70sman
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posted October 21, 1999 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
I , for one , will be pissed off if the last issue is only 22 pages long and full of double-page ads for video games.

adamswish
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posted October 21, 1999 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adamswish   Click Here to Email adamswish     Edit/Delete Message
Fantastic to find that preview. So vol3, #4 is out in January. But according the issue of previews for december releases there is no listing for the invisibles.
Strange things are happening, the one thing we can be certain of is that the millenium is going to arrive before the last issue. bet they wish they hadn't put that banner on ever front cover.

Zephir
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posted October 21, 1999 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zephir   Click Here to Email Zephir     Edit/Delete Message
issue number one will be double sized, he promised.

Loz
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posted October 21, 1999 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loz   Click Here to Email Loz     Edit/Delete Message
They dragged the last 3 or 4 issues of Sandman out over around 6 or 7 months so it wouldn't be surprising if they say 'bugger the thos' and do the same with Invisibles. Mind you, at least it would then satisify the pedants who insist the new millenium doesn't start until 2001...

The Scroll
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posted October 21, 1999 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Scroll   Click Here to Email The Scroll     Edit/Delete Message
It is reminiscent of the final few issues of SANDMAN--I recall the Previews descriptions of the "Kindly Ones" storyline also being rather bogus.

Fractals, man.

The Scroll

grant
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posted October 22, 1999 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
Counting to NONE??

DJ mindcontrol
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posted October 22, 1999 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ mindcontrol     Edit/Delete Message
A double-sized final issue...alright!!(Does that mean double the ads?)

As for the Previews/Sandman debacle, didn't Neil Gaiman plot/edit/extend/went with the flow/ as he wrote the "kindly ones" arc, hence the misguided previews preview?

Though of course this is not the case with the Invisables, as Grant had the plot figured for quite some time, ie v1.1!?

Enamon
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posted October 22, 1999 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enamon   Click Here to Email Enamon     Edit/Delete Message
Yes boys and girls. The new millenium starts on Jan 1 2001 NOT Jan.1 2000. This is exactly why Arthur C. Clarke's 2001: A Space Oddyssey is titled 2001 and not 2000. This is because there was no year 0. I dont even think that the concept of 0 was invented back when they started counting the years. Of course this also throws of the whole idea of decades (i.e. the 90's actually being 1991-2000 instead of 1990-1999) this is because the first decade EVER started out with the year 1 NOT 0.

Personally I have no idea why I am writing this. Just bored, I guess...

[This message has been edited by Enamon (edited October 22, 1999).]

grant
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posted October 22, 1999 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
according to your profile,

YOU'RE THE MONKEY KING!

Oh, mighty Hanuman! Illuminate us with your mischievous ways!

For you, the millennium can start whenever you want it to.

Ganesha
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posted October 22, 1999 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
You're the Pedant King.

Can there possibly be anyone anywhere who ISN'T aware that the 'true' Millenium doesn't start until next year?

(Killjoy was 'ere)

grant
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posted October 23, 1999 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grant   Click Here to Email grant     Edit/Delete Message
That's not counting the 12 years or so Pope Gregory lopped off a few hundred years back.

And the 20 days that got lost in the 1700s....

iao adonai
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posted October 23, 1999 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iao adonai   Click Here to Email iao adonai     Edit/Delete Message
Don't let the monkey get behind your back!

The concept of "zero" has been around for longer than our calendar has been kept.

Tom
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posted October 23, 1999 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message
For the millenium pedants, here is a couple of comments.

You are quite right in many ways - the early numbers were not cardinals (1,2,3) but ordinals (first, second, third as in "the first year of our lord") and therefore it is quite correct that two thousand years will have passed only at the end of 2000. However, since these cardinal numbers are counting FROM something that didn't happen on the correct dates or even years, it becomes pretty bloody arbitrary. The early records were fudged, Christ was supposedly born several years after 0BC, and conventional usage treat the years as cardinals. This being the case - either "correct" the system, taking it from the birth of Christ and making this year something like 1994, or live with it and accept that the millenium happens at 1999/2000.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted October 23, 1999 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
Zephir, I'm just interested to know when and where Grant made that promise. I know the last episode of the JLA is giant sized, but I've never heard the same thing said about the Invisibles. It's not that I want to disbelieve you, but it almost sounds too good to be true.

iao adonai
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posted October 23, 1999 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iao adonai   Click Here to Email iao adonai     Edit/Delete Message
Cardinals and Ordinals? I _love_ you Tom! You're fucking suave.

Ganesha
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posted October 23, 1999 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ganesha     Edit/Delete Message
Even if you do look like Christina Ricci.

70sman
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posted October 23, 1999 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70sman   Click Here to Email 70sman     Edit/Delete Message
Enamon: looking at your profile you surely have THE COOLEST EMAIL ADDRESS IN THE WORLD EVER! Congratulations!

Tom
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posted October 23, 1999 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message
I do NOT look like Christina Ricci. Sheesh.

iao adonai
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posted October 24, 1999 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iao adonai   Click Here to Email iao adonai     Edit/Delete Message
maybe. But you're still cute.

Johnny not-on-the-spot
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posted October 24, 1999 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny not-on-the-spot   Click Here to Email Johnny not-on-the-spot     Edit/Delete Message
I am now wondering if Grant is going to stretch out the last 5 issues so there's one every 2 and a half years, so the final one will fall on November 21st 2012...

Zephir
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posted October 25, 1999 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zephir   Click Here to Email Zephir     Edit/Delete Message
I could swear I read it at nextplanetover just... he said it was a biggie, an artist jam, and would be out in march. All of the sudden I can't be sure. But I was a second ago.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted October 25, 1999 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
Right, I'm a bit confused. The Invisible Kingdom is described as a three part story, but it begins in issue 4. This must mean that we're not going to see the Invisibles in December (others have mentioned this before), but also that the final episode does not belong to the story arc. Great, it should be a "stand alone" episode, in the same way that the last doom patrol was. OK, that's sorted, assuming we have the correct information (with this comic you can never tell). I'm no longer confused.

The artists' "jam" begins in issue 4 (as reality starts to fall into the singularity, folding in on itself. How wonderfully poetic), but, I gather that, Frank Quitely's drawing the last episode. This, too, would make sense poetically: A new artist heralding the birth of a new reality. So, Zeph, I'm pretty sure (assuming my information is correct) that I'm right about this one. But, if I'm right about the last episode not being an artistic "zoo", does that mean that the rest of your info was faulty? I hope not. I'd really like to see a double sized issue, especially after the irreverent crap that spilled into the last episode of Doom Patrol: Hey kids, Grants' run on Doom Patrol's over, the story's complete, only......it isn't!

Bullshit.

[This message has been edited by look!NickWaddam! (edited October 25, 1999).]

Topper
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posted October 26, 1999 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Topper   Click Here to Email Topper     Edit/Delete Message
- Of course, as RAW is fond of pointing out, it's only nearing the millenium on the Western/Christian calendar. One billion Chinese, one-sixth of our planet's population, could give a shit. Besides, don't you people know the world ended 40 years ago? Where were you?

- Sandman stretched out b/c Gaiman and Vess took their sweet time on it. Grant said on nextplanetover that he was wrapping up the last arc, so I wouldn't expect any great delays.

Topper

Zephir
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posted October 26, 1999 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zephir   Click Here to Email Zephir     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, according to anotheruniverse, there'll be one in november, then one in january. And Grant said it would be done around march. So that almost sounds monthly, for about a week there, at least.

look!NickWaddam!
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posted October 28, 1999 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for look!NickWaddam!   Click Here to Email look!NickWaddam!     Edit/Delete Message
Babbage.

Twig the Wonder Kid
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posted November 16, 1999 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twig the Wonder Kid   Click Here to Email Twig the Wonder Kid     Edit/Delete Message

I thought time was meant to be speeding up towards the apocalypse.

If the world doesn't end in 2012 I want my money back.

Johnny not-on-the-spot
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posted November 16, 1999 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny not-on-the-spot   Click Here to Email Johnny not-on-the-spot     Edit/Delete Message
I can see the news report.

' Sir Grant Morrison, arts and ents advisor to the world goverment UNIGOV, was today brutally murdered by twig the wonder kid. the kid ended his Lordship's life by obliterating all of Mr Morrison's spirit selves with a sub-reflexive energy feedback loop attack, using quasi-pagan mystic computer identity freezing mantras.
"Everything's fictional!" The kid was heard to scream after being instantly sentenced by Psi Judge Anderson and dragged off to the Juve cubes for 80 years.
Big Brother declared it a great victory for the party.'

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